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So what’s new in DuhSantistan?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, May 18, 2022.

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  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    @tilly does this tell you anything about DeSantis?

    Can any taxpayer sue the state for funding this? Seems like the state comptroller broke the law if he approved payment
     
  2. Gator715

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    They are better off being in cities which claim that they care most about them, will protect them, and offer them everything they need.

    We're about to find out if that was all just words. So far, it looks like just that. Martha's Vineyard kept them for all of what? 24 hours? Only to get shipped off somewhere else as well. Is THAT treating them like cattle? Is THAT human trafficking?

    As usual, it looks like Democrats are glad to have an expensive tab as long as somebody else is footing the bill, in this case, the border states. Then, they call themselves altruistic for favoring the expensive tab, without having actually done anything.
     
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  3. Gator715

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    Underestimate this move at your own peril. It's a winning move. And a long-term beneficial strategy to the country on the issue of immigration. It brings it to the forefront, offers a sense of urgency, and exposes the problems of illegal immigration by bringing the problem to the doorstep of the elites who do everything they can to exacerbate the problem.
     
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  4. philnotfil

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    If abusing people who are legally allowed to live here and work here is the winning move, then our country is irredeemable. I hope you are wrong about this being a winning move.
     
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  5. channingcrowderhungry

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    For the 1 millionth time in this thread, these weren't illegal immigrants. I realize the right desperately wishes this were the case for these humans they are gleefully cheering on the mistreatment of.
     
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  6. Gator715

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    Calling this abuse is an absolute joke.

    They received a free flight to Martha's Vineyard, one of the most beautiful places in the country, a place where politicians promised to be accepting of them, a place for which our elites vacation on a regular basis. Now you're mad because "DeSantis was just doing it to prove a point."

    Something a lot of people don't seem to want to answer is whether that point is correct. They also don't want to answer the consequences of that point. To be the whining about it, the complaints regarding the challenge of handling merely 50 people, and the fact that they were shipped off again within 24 hours frankly speaks for itself.

    Looks to me like he was right. And people like you are choosing to double down. So his response will likely be doing this again with twice the amount of people, and he should do that. You want more, you pride yourself on being a safe haven for them, it's a net economic benefit (right?), have some more.

    Admit that there's an immigration crisis, admit that treating the quantity of people crossing the border in an ideal fashion is overwhelming, and admit that these cities cannot possibly take them all in without significant cost and consequences... and we'll get somewhere. But that's not what I've seen. It's all about how evil and cruel DeathSantis is, it's all about how he reminds you of the Orange Man.

    If that's how you want to play it, you should know how far insulting this new generation of Republicans has gotten you in persuading them.
     
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  7. magnetofsnatch

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    It’s 50 people. I’ve had more people at a toddlers birthday party. The news acts like Martha’s Vineyard mobilized a huge contingent to “deal” with this emergency.
     
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  8. Gator715

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    And you don't care about conservatism or libertarianism.
     
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  9. channingcrowderhungry

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  10. philnotfil

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    Because you like the place they were sent, it is okay to lie to them to get them on the plane in Texas, and okay to lie to the taxpayers of Florida about how their money is being spent, and okay to lie to America about the legal status of these people?

    Why can't we talk about the immigration crisis without resorting to lies?
     
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  11. HeyItsMe

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    I’m sure if one of those 50 people were one of your family members, you’d care. Typical GOP voter mentality: “me me me me me.” If it doesn’t affect you, you don’t care. Remember, this is the party that claims to be pro life and care about people. What a crock.
     
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  12. magnetofsnatch

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    Haha you know me so well. You are the kinda host that wouldn’t even have beer at the toddler party.

    I do love the what if one of the 50 were your family member retort though. You almost changed my mind.
     
  13. HeyItsMe

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    We already knew you were a cuck based on your previous post, but way to make it blatantly obvious with this post. It’s all about you, eh? Who cares about anyone else. What a standup human being you are.
     
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  14. magnetofsnatch

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    Man you are an angry fellow. The party of compassion sure can’t control their anger I guess.

    I will tell you if you stop worrying about things that don’t impact you directly you will likely be happier. If you can’t do that then maybe run for office and make that change you so desperately seem to envision. I’m rooting for you.
     
  15. gtr2x

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    The citizens of Nantucket are exacerbating the immigration problem?? How?
     
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  16. channingcrowderhungry

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    If this quote doesn't sum up the current state of the GOP nothing does.
     
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  17. magnetofsnatch

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    For me it isn’t political. For me it’s simply not worrying about things I can’t control.
     
  18. channingcrowderhungry

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    So why do you watch Florida football?
     
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  19. rtgator

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    Migrants sent to Martha's Vineyard have been voluntarily taken to military base for support , officials say - CNNPolitics

    The roughly 50 migrants who were sent by plane to Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts by Florida's governor this week were transported to a military base Friday to receive shelter and humanitarian support, officials said.

    The migrants, after two days of uncertainty on the small island and a large local effort to provide for them, cheered Friday morning when they were told they'd be taken to Joint Base Cape Cod.
     
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  20. gator_lawyer

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    You know what's abusive? Convincing people to get on a plane by lying to them about their destination, lying to them about the availability of work authorizations, and lying to them about the availability of jobs, and then dropping them in a different location where few people speak the same language as them with no notice to anybody that they'll be there and few resources in place to help them. And because of that cruel behavior, those people were forced to walk three miles to a community center to find help.


    If you think that's okay, I truly wonder if you have any empathy. And by the way, when you're reusing the ideas of segregationists, you're definitely on the wrong side of the issue:
    The Cruel Story Behind The 'Reverse Freedom Rides'
    After three days on a Greyhound bus, Lela Mae Williams was just an hour from her destination—Hyannis, Mass.—when she asked the bus driver to pull over. She needed to change into her finest clothes. She had been promised the Kennedy family would be waiting for her.
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    "She was going to have a job, and she was going to be able to support her family," one of Lela Mae's daughters, Betty Williams, remembered in a recent interview. Before coming north to Massachusetts, Lela Mae had been promised a good job, good housing and a presidential welcome.

    But President Kennedy was not there to meet her. And there was no job or permanent housing waiting for her in Hyannis. Instead, Lela Mae and the others were unwitting pawns in a segregationist game.
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    Fuming over the civil rights movement, Southern segregationists had concocted a way to retaliate against Northern liberals. In 1962, they tricked about 200 African Americans from the South into moving north. The idea was simple: When large numbers of African Americans showed up on Northern doorsteps, Northerners would not be able to accommodate them. They would not want them, and their hypocrisy would be exposed.
     
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