So what’s new in DuhSantistan?

Yeah man, that's exactly what I said. Maybe research some of the libertarian thoughts and reactions to Covid and get back with me.

 

If supporting government shutdowns of businesses and government blocking healthy kids from going to school is small government conservatism or libertarianism, I want no part of that.

Also, it’s not.

 

You're right. People should be able to spread disease with wanton abandon. That's libertarianism.

Actually, it's not.

 

What makes me laugh is that we had one of the usual suspects posting memes on this thread about DeSantis being shocked that the people of Martha's Vineyard welcomed these people with open arms and fed and housed them. I asked how long is this going to last and as expected it lasted all of 24 hrs. The good folks of Martha's Vineyard don't want these people around.

 

Notably, DeSantis did not categorically oppose severe Covid measures based upon liberty interests. People seem to forget that he shut down various businesses. He enforced federal guidance on Florida's beaches, micro-managing the numbers of people in groups. He was yelling at spring breakers. He threatened people coming from Louisiana to Florida and mandated that they quarantine. He had the highway patrol out there trying to intimidate people. He reversed course, and maybe that was the right thing to do given the data and additional information. But people who argue that the government didn't have the power to do any of that stuff are pointing the finger at him, too.

 

Dang it...and I read where the obamas had aready put together a big ass cage in the back forty.

 

I'm sure an investigation with DHS will occur and some heads will roll for participating in this stunt.

 

Indeed, every leader and level of government succumbed to madness. To his credit, he began to listen to scientists whose concerns reshaped his views on what was a pervasive and spectacular overreach. And in reopening the state, he had to fight his way past sinister intonations of turning the state into a necropolis. That is to say that he did what precious few were brave enough to do, ignore the threat that held the world’s leaders in check, the fear of having blood on one’s hands.

 

while most may disagree with your interpretation of the facts at hand, I doubt that many hate you. Hatting each other is what outside forces crave to happen and what social media feeds one into. Maybe I think too highly of the board but it seems that there may be 1 or 2 on the left that exhibit hate like tendencies, the rest are just in disagreement and some of us are just stupified to see the defense of the defenseless and the ability to jump from conspiracy to conspiracy to refuse to recognize that the emperor has no robes. I have family that hates me because I refuse to agree that his robes are wonderful. Never seen anything like it in my life. Hope to never see it again.

 

@tilly, does this remind you of how somebody else may have conducted themselves? does this repeated pattern not bother you?

how can anyone defend this. and this is DeSantis 100%. I would be hard pressed to believe that anybody did anything below without him knowing the details.

this requires congressional leadership investigation of DHS and who is in charge of these shipments of migrants and why the paperwork was completed the way it was.

1. Migrants were told that jobs and housing would be provided to them at the destination
2. Were given a tourists map of MV to find their way upon arrival
3. Nobody in MV was told that anyone was coming so that accommodations and support could be figured out before their arrival
4. Migrants were given directions to change their address with the wrong immigration agency, failure to file with proper agency would put them in violation and ordered to be exported
5. Migrants mailing addresses were filled in with random homeless shelters around the country, this created required dates to appear at DHS offices across the country, this week, or be in violation
6. Migrants not given medical care to obvious injuries

 

These weren't illegal immigrants.

 

Calculus? No such thought was put into this moronic political stunt for the personal benefit of DeStuntis at the expense of Florida taxpayers.

 

So, you've convinced yourself that a crass political stunt done solely for DeSantis' political benefit at the expense of Florida taxpayers is somehow a net positive. Yeah, right.

 

Wrong. The immigrants were offered a alternative arrangement pending their choices of where they want to go. They accepted the arrangements and embraced the people of Martha's Vinyard. Migrants flown to Martha's Vineyard describe how they got to Mass.
I get that the right can't see the difference between that and the lies that were told to these poor people to deceive them into getting on the planes.

But, that is because you can't see that they are human.

 

They are better off choosing where they want to go. You just can't humanize these people. As long as they are "not in [your] neighborhood."

They accepted offers from a purported immigration advocate to go to Boston. They were lied to to score political points. By DeSantis' representative.

Which they did. From people like you, who want to use them to make a point to the Democrats.

And you droll on and on with the talking points.

These are people, not cattle. We are not debating pasturing versus factory farming.

 

So DeSantis paid $615,000 to fly the immigrants from TX to MA. Also, the program approved by the legislature requires that the immigrants be transported from Florida which we know was not the case here. So why is DeSantis spending $615K to transport immigrants from TX to MA when the program requires that they be transported from Florida?

DeSantis administration paid $615,000 to aviation company for migrant relocation

 

With around 50 immigrants, DeSantis could have just given each one about $12K and they could have bought a bus ticket to anywhere in the country and had more than $11.5K left to get established with.

 

NEVER FORGET 9/14/22

 

But that wouldn’t own da libz.

 

That's kinda... stupid. It makes no sense in respect to how the community reacted.