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if kamala will not go to the border, the border comes to kamala

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by buckeyegator, Sep 15, 2022.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    You haven't provided a single argument or piece of evidence for how his use of the term "illegal" to describe legal residents isn't a slur, just that you don't like that somebody said it was (i.e., it triggered you). It certainly isn't an accurate description of temporary legal residents. All you have done is lie and attack me. So, either provide an on-point argument/evidence, or buzz off.
     
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  2. Orange_and_Bluke

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  3. mdgator05

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    Indeed you are. Let me know when you are ready to apologize for lying about me.
     
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  4. VAg8r1

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    Interesting that senior DHS officials have proposed transporting migrants from border states to other locations in the US, a proposal apparently opposed by the White House. The difference between their proposal is that the transport would be done in an orderly manner with the cities in which the migrants are to be transported receiving notice as opposed to doing so as a cruel political stunt in which migrants are bused or flown and dropped off at their new locations without advance notice as Abbott, Ducey and DeSantis have been doing.
    Friction between White House, top DHS officials as migrant numbers soar
     
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  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I never expected you to admit fault. As with most libbies, you’re always the smartest guy in the room. Good luck mending our country’s mess by calling everyone racist.
    Sad.
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    So, in summary, I pointed out that legal residents are not "illegals" (factually true), and that calling them that inaccurately is little more than a racial slur. You got triggered. You have refused to discuss the matter at any sort of substantive level and have proceeded to lie and engage in constant ad hominem attacks against me because you were triggered.

    As I said, you have added nothing of value here. Let me know if you actually want to discuss why you think people should be calling legal migrants "illegals." But you won't. Sad.
     
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  7. magnetofsnatch

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    Wow reading through this thread has made me lose brain cells. This mdgator fellow is upset someone is being referred to as “illegal”. This is what 3 pages of back in forth is about?
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    Nah, people are big mad that I pointed out that calling legal migrants "illegals" is little more than a slur. It triggered a bunch of people that can't discuss the issue in any sort of substantive way, just pretending to be horribly offended. A hit dog hollers.
     
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  9. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I don’t play dumb word games with wanna be libbie lawyers. You aren’t man enough to be honest. I know your type very well. You feel good about yourself labeling others racist. That is the sad, sad issue at hand that is ripping our country apart.
    You are part of the problem more than actual, real racists.
     
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  10. magnetofsnatch

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    I’ve now heard it all. Calling someone an illegal alien is racist. Do you have high anxiety? I couldn’t imagine replying 100 times on a message board about that term and not be medicated. If you aren’t then I encourage you to get some edibles or something and calm down.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    It is when they aren't illegal aliens. That is the point.

    Let me ask you this: is a legal migrant an "illegal?"
     
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    If they're not illegals and people are calling them that anyway, isn't that mischaracterization more concerning than someone being upset by it?
     
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  14. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I think we may agree that the issue of who is actually seeking asylum and who is coming because it’s wide open is a complicated subject.
    I’m choosing not to engage md in this matter because of his propensity to parse words, move goal posts and partake in other debating shenanigans.
     
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    Asylum seekers aren't illegals. They are undocumented. So are people who overstay student visas and/or work visas. Yet, these people often don't get the tag "illegal." Ask yourself why?

    Regardless, all undocumented aliens are people. They should be treated as such. Transporting them under false pretenses that they will all get jobs and housing in Boston, and instead, putting them in the Martha's Vineyard, where none of that awaits is cruel and inhumane. It's treating people not as human, but as pawns in a political game to score points with political supporters. If this stunt scored points with you, try a little empathy and put yourself in the shoes of one of the undocumented immigrants. Forced to leave their home country because of war, poverty, famine, and violence, and when they get here, aren't treated much better.

    What's tearing this country apart? The inability to grow and learn from the past. Transporting these undocumented immigrants under false pretenses isn't any better than putting a NINA sign in your storefront. Crazy thing is today, the Irish are a well recognized part of American culture, and welcomed with open arms, and people would consider NINA signs a racist slur.
     
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  16. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Try not being super sensitive. I doubt those illegals give two shits about how we refer to them.
    You nor I can consistently prove whether or not anyone is actually seeking asylum.
    You’re making the assumption that you do know.
     
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  17. AzCatFan

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    We should give two shits about how we treat other human beings. That includes how we refer and call other groups. If you think a word or words do not have power, try using the "N" word around a bunch of African Americans. And if these people aren't asylum seekers, then they aren't here legally. Which means transporting them across state lines would too be a crime.
     
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  18. wgbgator

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    Arent you doing that by calling them "illegal?" Our legal system has the presumption of innocence, so you are the one who's convicted them without due process.
     
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  19. buckeyegator

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    i believe i have been told several times here people seeking asylum are to remain on the other side of the border. what part of they are not abbidding by this and thus are in this country illegally is misunderstood?
     
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    Every time I read one of your posts this candidate for the Arlington County Virginia Board of Supervisors comes to mind.
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