Back in the debate days, we called it “spread debating.” Just make as many pints as you could in 8 minutes and how the other side doesn’t cover everything and then argue that you win because the other side didn’t respond to several important points. Which were usually arguments with little weight. Same concept.
Or that by about page 10 we had actual evidence that he did in fact steal 100s of the most classified documents the US has. Documents he had absolutely no business keeping, or even having seen in reality. But you keep your head in the sand and insist that it is ok that a former President took these documents illegally and stored them at a country club.
I don't know for sure what he had, I'm not blindly following the reports from leaks or blindly believing what Trump advocates have said. But don't let being patient to try and discover the truth ruin your belief that Trump is the worst human being on this earth and because he is not a libbie he must be guilty
will the evidence be presented at court be believable to you? the problem for the gubmnt though is they cannot openly present that information for obvious reasons. I suspect that will be Trump's end game, to try and force the gubmnt to have to disclose the contents of the TS documents, which they cannot do. How do you prosecute if you cannot expose the evidence to the jury?
Unfortunately there are lots of folks out there saying they will not believe a court’s interpretation and believe it is a setup unless they see the doc’s for themselves. Good argument, given they will never see the docs. Witch hunt!
$3M retainer - Now we know the cost to get Krise to risk his license and reputation Trump's document scandal has 'jolted' him so much he's shelling out $3 million for lawyer (msn.com) Having someone like Trump as a client and run the risk of not being paid at all or disbarred has meant that Trump can't find attorneys to help him when necessary. A $3 million check from the Save America PAC appears to be the way he was able to bring on Chris Kise. The former Florida solicitor general is making bank, Swan explained. New York Times Maggie Haberman noted that it's an indication that "this case has jolted him." He's "not known for paying lawyers." "It’s unclear if the sum paid by Save America PAC is going directly to Kise or if it has been placed in an account that Kise will bill as he works for Trump," the report explained. "Kise left the firm Foley and Lardner and set up his own firm, Chris Kise & Associates, in order to take Trump as a client. Save America made the payment as he was going through that complex process, so it’s unclear if the payment went to a financial vehicle controlled by his brand new firm or one controlled by another entity." The legal fees problem has become scrutinized by the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on Congress. Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) told reporters that the committee members are researching whether witnesses had their legal fees paid for by Trump as a kind of agreement to protect him. The concern is that it could be considered witness tampering. The finances around the Jan. 6 attack and the legal fees are expected to be part of the next public hearing.
Judge Cannon denied the motion for a limited stay. On to the 11th Circuit. This should be reversed quickly. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.89.0.pdf
Judge shopping was effective. He found one willing to ignore the evidence and the law in order to please him. In the denial today the judge Cannon said the only claims that the material was classified was by the federal government- which, of course, is the only entity that can classify federal documents
I’m not as convinced as you. She was very careful in her order. The Government’s sole shot at an 11th Circuit stay is the Court’s full buy-in to the jurisdiction argument. Meanwhile, with her denial, I’m curious whether the motion for stay has been filed before the 11th Circuit already.
She hasn’t cited one civil case in any of her decisions. All the cases she cited are criminal cases. There is no authority for a court to enjoin a grand jury investigation or to apply a prophylactic exclusionary rule to an investigation. There is a pending case in DC and another pending search warrant case. In addition, she had ignored the holdings in Nixon v US, Nixon v GSA and Trump v Thompson.
No, I’m retired and used to wrangle bears. No offense but I’ve long believed that the more lawyers a layman knows, the worse his quality of life. It’s worked out well for me.