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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gator95

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    Ok cool, you go ahead and whip up a chart and assign a score to each. I can’t wait to see it…
     
  2. mdgator05

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    So you want me to provide you a chart with an ad hoc set of variables and weightings of those variables and declare it factual and not biased? Because that is how this works now?
     
  3. WarDamnGator

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    Well, that sure seems to imply they believe that vaccines for people for under 50 were helpfully, don’t you think?
     
  4. QGator2414

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    It implies based on risk that those under 50 do not need to take these shots. Sure a bunch have already taken them. And likely gotten Covid as well.

    If you are young and healthy. There is no reason to take these shots. Why would I put my body to work again for an archaic shot. Shoot. I would have to take two of the archaic versions before I could even take the bivalent one. I presumably had one of the omicron versions of Covid. My body did just fine like so many others in my demographic.

    It is baffling that we did not address this by the data and focus on the high risk groups and instead have gone tunnel vision mRNA for all. We continue to not address natural immunity as we make policy here as well.
     
  5. buckeyegator

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  6. philnotfil

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    I agree.
     
  7. WarDamnGator

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    Again, they are literally saying that most people under 50 having had the vaccine is a reason why they feel it’s safe to cut off that age group. They are not saying it was mistake for that age group to have had it, the opposite, actually, Geez….
     
  8. gator95

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    I get it, it sucks that when taking all those variable into account that Fl is the best performing large state. It’s ok to just say “yep, Fl is the best”. I won’t rip you for admitting it. I know you want to.
     
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  9. mdgator05

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    I get that actually digging into your claims doesn’t help you build your narrative. Oh well.
     
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  10. tilly

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    The guy in my link would probably tell you seatbelts are Russian Roulette, yet I bet you roll those dice every single day.
     
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  11. Gatorrick22

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    Yes, I always wear my seatbelt in cars, but no one I know is getting fired from work, or banned from traveling on a jet because of it. ;)
     
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  12. tilly

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    I have drivers that work for me. They have to wear seatbelts. Refusal to do so would get them fired. Them not doing so is a liability.

    Also (unlike vaccines) it is illegal to not wear a seatbelt and you can be punished under the law for refusal.
     
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  13. Gatorrick22

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    I would fire them too... Yeah, safety first.
     
  14. mdgator05

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    I strongly suspect that if you refuse to put on your seatbelt at the beginning of a flight, they will toss you off the jet.
     
  15. gator95

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    I get the analogy but again, it’s not a good one because children don’t get hurt just putting a seat belt on like boys can be from myocarditis. Also, men under 30 are at a higher risk of myocarditis as well.
     
  16. tilly

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    Kids have literally been killed by the seatbelt. Kids have actually been killed because of their car seat. Thats where I feel the analogy fits.
     
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  17. gatordavisl

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    You forgot to follow the science.
     
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  18. gatordavisl

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    To be fair though, isn't this selective? Weren't you in a severe car accident in the recent past? TBC - I wish you all the best in your recovery; just not sure why jabs are more dangerous than driving.
     
  19. gator95

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    Not by just putting it on they haven’t. Only in an accident is there a risk to children. Here’s the thing, just getting the shot for boys is a risk of myocarditis
     
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  20. tilly

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    Ok. I see what you mean.

    My greater point though is Rick is saying that we are accepting deaths and I am pointing out we already do as a society when it is a numbers game.

    Rick's complete dismissal of the vaccine overall. (Not just for you ger people) as an agent of good is akin to not wearing a seatbelt because the seatbelt itself MIGHT kill you.
     
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