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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. vaxcardinal

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    this looks like a google map of the beltway around washington at certain times of the day
     
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  2. chemgator

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    No, no. Russia is GAINING bicycles. The Russian troops are stealing them to escape certain death at the hands of the Ukrainians. In an orderly retreat, of course. With their courage and manhood intact.

    Queue Monty Python singing the Sir Robin song: "He bravely ran away . . . brave, brave, brave Sir Robin!"


    All they had to trade for the hundreds of bicycles they stole was 388 trucks, tanks and aircraft.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    This, the entertainment value is well passed its shelflife. Everyone should just put the troll on ignore, please
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    Flightaware shows planes in the air over Moscow
     
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  5. ursidman

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    That suggests it’s nothing. I can only find some vague mentions of it on Reddit.
    But did find this very specific account on Twitter that suggests (if it happened) it was not at all effective.

     
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  6. duchen

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    Why would they want the Russian equipment? I suppose they can melt down the metal to replace the appliances that the crack Russian looters are taking home.
     
  7. duchen

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    You aren't fighting NATO. You are fighting smart Ukranian forces who learned NATO tactics and how to use NATO equipment very quickly. They have proven that Ukraine will be a worthy NATO member and they can offer actual tactical experience defeating Russia-- without the ability to project Naval or air power.

    If you were fighting NATO, this would have been over in March.
     
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  8. chemgator

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    Much of the Russian equipment still works. And that is the base equipment that Ukraine has always used. It's not as good as the equipment donated by western countries, but it is better than nothing. The stuff that doesn't work is still good for spare parts.
     
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  9. uftaipan

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    What chem said. The Ukrainian armed forces operate primarily on former Soviet equipment. The tanks and other surface vehicles would be of immediate use (assuming they don’t have Javelin-sized holes in them). So would almost all of the munitions they capture.
     
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  10. chemgator

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    As if Zelensky doesn't have enough things to worry about, he got into a relatively serious car accident today. Fortunately, he wasn't injured, but the other driver was taken to the hospital. Don't mess with Zelensky. If he wants to run the red light, let him do it. (Just kidding--Ukraine doesn't have traffic lights anymore.)

    Ukraine President Zelensky has 'no serious injuries' after car accident | CNN

    Volo, babushka, drive a little slower, will ya? We need ya to get there in one piece.
     
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  11. G8trGr8t

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    Good read on how the war is exposing Russian territories to possible alternative alliances. China seems to be courting Kazakhstan while Azerbaijan is shelling Armenia
    Former Soviet states eye opportunities as Russia suffers Ukraine rout

    We are seeing the collapse of Russia’s reputation as a security patron, which is happening both at the material level with the massive force concentration on Ukraine, but also on the subjective level of the reputation of Russian security guarantees,” said Broers.

    Across the region, the invasion of Ukraine has shocked and worried Russian allies, but also emboldened them to take a tougher stance with Moscow.

    Kazakhstan, traditionally a close ally, has infuriated many in Moscow by trying to remain neutral over Ukraine, refusing to recognise the Russian-controlled territories in east Ukraine and promising not to aid Russia’s efforts to circumvent international sanctions.

    This led some in Moscow to question Kazakhstan’s sovereignty, including the former Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev, who called it an “artificial state” in a post he later deleted.

    But while Kazakhstan remains wary of the longer-term threats from its bigger neighbour and supposed ally, there are others ready to step in and fill the gap. On Wednesday, the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, arrived in Kazakhstan on what is thought to be his first trip abroad since the start of the Covid pandemic.
     
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  12. uftaipan

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    Florida man becomes first American to fly supplies to Ukrainians
    The small planes work very well because you can haul a lot of medication, medicine, drugs in a small plane who doesn’t weigh a lot.”
    Bone said he flew 17 backpacks of supplies each flight. He and 59 other planes routinely flew the seven-hour round trip from Bonn, Germany to the Ukrainian border. He said he’ll never forget the stories he’s heard and the soldiers he’s met.
    “That fellow is actually a fairly famous war hero,” Bone said. “He had a badly damaged arm and they tried to rescue him back to his camp. And he told me that he told them to just leave him. And he laid there through the rest of the battle and then listened to his fellow soldiers be tortured and killed by the Russians. And he waited that out, and when the Russians were done drinking and were asleep, he went in there with hand grenades and eliminated them.”
     
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    Seems like we should be having talks with states like Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan about deepening ties as well.
     
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  15. G8trGr8t

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    don't poke the bear. I would fear that security of the widespread nuclear weapons isn't that good, and it's obvious that their command and control structure lacks the ability to do either.
     
  16. G8trGr8t

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    More evidence of crimes against humanity. Is it any wonder that they ran when faced with the possibility of being captured and tried?

    Ukraine live briefing: Russia says U.S. long-range missiles would cross ‘red line’; E.U. chief in Kyiv (msn.com)

    • Zelensky made a surprise visit to Izyum, a strategic city in the northeastern Kharkiv region, on Wednesday, which he said was mostly recaptured from Russian control. He said in remarks overnight that there have been reports of “murders, tortures and abductions by the occupiers” and that some of the scenes being uncovered were similar to what was found in Bucha, where Ukrainian civilians suffered some of the worst atrocities of the war at the hands of Russian troops. The Washington Post could not independently verify the claims.
     
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  17. exiledgator

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    Who cares about the bear? ...If the bear is Putin's regime. I'm not sure what the Russian people would think of US interests expanding there. That would be a concern. No need to do anything that would give power back to Moscow RN.

    Kinda moot, while both countries already have strong relationships with us, their autocratic tendencies and geography would likely lend them to fall towards china in a world with a weakening Russia.
     
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  18. uftaipan

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    At the moment, I’m torn on the idea. Russia has always misinterpreted our kindness for weakness. I say, as long as they have decided to settle the matter in Ukraine by force of arms, what they consider their sphere of influence is not our concern. Now if they are willing to halt this war and return to their internationally recognized borders, then I’m all about negotiating such a sphere. Until then, we should put pressure on Transnistria, South Ossettia, the Kuriles, Koenigsberg, and everywhere else Russia is outside of Russia.
     
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  20. ursidman

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    Tweet was deleted. What it say?