FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

FBI can’t be trusted. The documents are fake. It’s all a hoax. Latest trump defense

 

One of those rants says the Pillow guy got raided... is that true? Haven't seen that posted anywhere yet.

Edit: See that he had his phone seized by the FBI at a restaurant. Not exactly a "raid"... but interesting.

 

Unfortunately, I think that his followers believe this 100%.

 

I was supposed to go to law school. Took the LSAT after undergrad and then decided to join the Army instead and go to Germany. Ended up coming back to UF to get an MBA, but when lawyers display knowledge of seemingly every nuance and circumstance I find it very impressive. I don’t regret my decisions but sometimes I wish I had followed through with law school.

 

The SSCI knows those documents contain the evidence of the collective government effort to target candidate Trump and then effectively remove President Trump. That effort included the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and they want to know what evidence if any, Trump had at his home. Mark Warner is very worried.

Creating the lawsuit as a vehicle to legally share documentary evidence and establish a silo (attorney-client privilege) was the goal, not the actual outcome of the lawsuit itself. It's a legal countermeasure to a predictable DOJ-NSD lawfare maneuver, which unfolded in the Mar-a-Lago raid. There is a reason the Trump team did not include evidence with the 108 page lawsuit. There are a few reasons the did not include attachments of evidence with Durham investigation being one. The material seized is all attorney client work product. Lawfully obtained, constitutionally declassified and legally protected material. The special master will be key here.

 

You guys really crack me up!!
Yes it is a big deal to raid a former President's house.
Yes there is a possibility that Trump broke the law and was not compiling with the courts.
But 172 pages of Trump did this and this and this and this and this and this and this and the only reason to draw those conclusions is: I could see Trump doing that.
Amazing!!
Wait for it, what really happened, what they took, the potential harm of the documents, Trump being charged, this will all happen or not but 172 pages of smears and unfounded accusations based off leaks is just to much

 

ah, first time on a message board?

 

Wow. When you have to resort to a conspiracy, you've lost. You're a real trump.

 

I’m sure the NSA has tapes release the tapes!

Unfortunately, This would create another rally of deep fakes from the gullible.

 

Lock her up. Lock her up. The 2- faced supporters of Donald Trump.

 

Well, in addition to the suit being tossed, now the Durham investigation is winding down. This narrative is getting more and more challenging to spin. But give it a shot.

Durham Inquiry Appears to Wind Down as Grand Jury Expires

 

womp womp

 

The thread would be half as long if a very few die hard MAGAts hadn’t been compulsively posting preposterous ideas supporting Trump’s innocence and/or the justice department’s guilt for the raid and the investigation.

 

Speaking of smears and unfounded accusations, seems that's an accurate description of the attacks on the FBI, the AG, the DOJ and the current president from supporters of the former president.

 

This is a message board for open discussion, isnt it?

 

I wonder what his personal income was for that gig and who was in charge of the spending?

 

Damn, I thought for sure Hillary and Obama were going to jail any moment over this!

 

The conspiracy theorists are hard to debate, because honestly I just don't keep up with enough detail to argue with them. What about the Steele Dossier? The FISA applications? Hunter Biden's association with this or that? Hillary's servers? You'd have to be a walking encyclopedia to thoroughly dismiss all the accusations.

 

Gish Gallop is an effective strategy.

Gish Gallop

The Gish Gallop is the fallacious debate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. It's essentially a conveyor belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it's unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationist Duane Gish, who often abused it.

Although it takes a trivial amount of effort on the Galloper's part to make each individual point before skipping to the next (especially if they cite from a pre-concocted list of Gallop arguments), a refutation of the same Gallop may likely take much longer and require significantly more effort (per the basic principle that it's always easier to make a mess than to clean it back up again). The tedium inherent in untangling a Gish Gallop typically allows for very little "creative license" or vivid rhetoric (in deliberate contrast to the exciting point-dashing central to the Galloping), which in turn risks boring the audience or readers, further loosening the refuter's grip on the crowd.

This is especially true in that the Galloper need only win a single one out of all his component arguments in order to be able to cast doubt on the entire refutation attempt. For this reason, the refuter must achieve a 100% success ratio (with all the yawn-inducing elaboration that goes with such precision). Thus, Gish Galloping is frequently employed (with particularly devastating results) in timed debates. The same is true for any time- or character-limited debate medium, including Twitter and newspaper editorials.