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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    NYC experienced a devastating wave of iatrogenic killing in April 2020.
     
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  2. philnotfil

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    Could you elaborate on this? What medical treatment was causing deaths in April of 2020?



    i·at·ro·gen·ic
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    adjective
    1. relating to illness caused by medical examination or treatment.
     
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  3. BLING

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    Isn’t this the “viruses aren’t real” guy? Probably not worth your time…
     
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  4. duggers_dad

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    Medical error was already considered, by some reckonings, the third-leading cause of death in the US PRIOR to March 2020 when panic was established as official health policy.

    I continue to read that the US has suffered 1.2+ million excess deaths since, all of which can be explained by the *effects* of panic, despair and likely vaccines ... no need to appeal to a pathogen ...

    https://www.researchgate.net/profil...-Not-Save-Lives.pdf?origin=publication_detail
     
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  5. BLING

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    Yes, all the excess deaths were medical error and vaccines, rather than the virus itself. Every single ICU doctor, nurse, hospital lab technician, respiratory therapist, and medical examiner was obviously also in on this scam… not just in the U.S. but globally. It’s pretty wide-ranging. :emoji_joy:
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    FINALLY, someone is listening. There are no rogue nanoparticles killing grannies when we cough them out. Virology is the modern-day equivalent of demonology.
     
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  7. g8trjax

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    You can bet the world initially killed a crapload of people by automatically slapping every covid patient on a respirator.
     
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  8. philnotfil

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    This is what researchgate tells me about the author:

    About John
    Disciplines
    • Observational Astronomy
    • Astronomy
    • Astrophysics
    Skills and expertise
    • Astronomy & Astrophysics
    • Stellar Astrophysics
    • Photometry
     
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  9. duggers_dad

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    Either that or it was a spectacularly intelligent pathogen that knew to strike certain (but not other population centers) synchronously, throughout the world, days following the WHO’s ominous pandemic declaration.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    https://denisrancourt.ca/page.php?id=3&name=cv
     
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  11. philnotfil

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    From the link:
    Dr. Rancourt has been an invited plenary, keynote, or special session speaker at major scientific conferences 40 times, including recently in 2020 (by virtual attendance). He has published over 100 research papers in leading peer-reviewed scientific journals, in the areas of physics, chemistry, geology, materials science, soil science, and environmental science.
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    Good head start. Now take that head of steam and read the study. I presume you’ll be able to refute its findings.
     
  13. BLING

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    There was definitively some of this, but the %’s are small. They don’t just “slap people on a ventilator” for no reason. It’s a serious process to be intubated in an ICU bed (usually involves paralytics and induced coma, sometimes even tracheotomy). So those people are gravely ill to be in that situation. The vast majority will die either way. What they learned was the recovery rate was so poor from people with severe covid that ventilation was almost a death sentence and should be delayed until the patient is practically coding, at that point there is no other choice unless the patient simply wants to be allowed to die.

    I know a couple of people who were ventilated and beat the odds to pull through (both during Delta Wave, when hospitals were already aware of the preference to delay ventilaton). At one point I was hearing it was like 80% chance of death if you reached that level. It might still be, but Omicron hasn’t been as bad as Delta in terms of sending sheer numbers of people to the icu.
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    and Cureus is a author driven site for people to publish with no peer review or editorial control so it should be viewed as such.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    As I understand it, ventilators ceased to become a serious endeavor and intubation became an early recourse, to avoid aerosolization (via CPAP) so as to spare hospital staff. But when I say death due to *effects* of panic, I could just as well point to the effects of extreme psychological stress ...

    Fukushima stress deaths top 3/11 toll
     
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    It’s ok, he said the quiet part out loud and deleted it. So anyone quoting Covid deaths right now is just peddling garbage.
     
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    So regular use of Ivermectin can lead up to a 92% reduction in the Covid mortality rate in an area where parasitic infestation is endemic? Who would have thought that eliminating or preventing parasitic infestation would result in a better outcome for patients infected with Covid-19?

    There is also this.
    Ivermectin study in the city of Itajaí contains several methodological weaknesses, resulting in questionable conclusions/
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    Horse paste may be beneficial for parasites which, as I understand it, can cause pneumonia. But I’m highly dubious about the world being slammed by a MASSIVE wave of parasites.
     
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    The way that the deleted tweet was phrased if a patient who died as the result of a serious traumatic injury like a gunshot wound or as the result of an automobile accident tested positive for Covid-19 the death would be considered a Covid-19 death. I'm sure that's not what he meant. While I obviously cannot speak for Dr. Spellberg what he probably meant to say was that if a patient died as the result of a condition with symptoms that included reduced lung function such as late stage COPD also tested positive for Covid the death would be considered a Covid death when the real cause was the COPD aggravated by the Covid infection and that the patient could have conceivably died as the result of the COPD even if he or she was not infected with Covid.
     
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  20. VAg8r1

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    Not the world but the region of Brazil from which the data were obtained is an area in which parasitic infection is endemic.
     
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