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FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duchen, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    . He is right. But, the DOJ should have challenged her exercise of jurisdiction this earlier.
     
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  2. ajoseph

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    I laughed only because the judge will never be required to explain herself.
     
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  3. flgator2

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    Lol I bet you and others are disappointed.
    That's why we have laws to protect everybody involved
     
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  4. gatorchamps960608

    gatorchamps960608 GC Hall of Fame

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    What she did was basically declaring herself to be able to check the executive branch and create special doctrine overriding precedent to protect the man who appointed her after he lost the last election.
     
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  5. tampagtr

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    Orin Kerr, the most cited source in federal decisions, asking questions (politely pointing out how lawless and unsupportable this ruling is).
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  6. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    And he hires racist clerks
     
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  7. gator_lawyer

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    The most pointed question he asked is how the "judge" thinks she can enjoin a separate criminal investigation in an ancillary civil action when law is quite clear that she can't enjoin a separate criminal prosecution in an ancillary civil action.
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    What blows my mind is he clerked for John Minor Wisdom out of law school. How do you go from being mentored by a civil rights legend to being an odious hack that no civil rights plaintiff wants to have their case in front of? Jeez. It would be like Samuel Alito clerking for Thurgood Marshall.
     
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  9. tampagtr

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    Did not know that. Just know that he hired a clerk on the recommendation of Ginni Thomas with a long online history of explicitly racist diatribes. She said she had been hacked and set up over years, and he apparently viewed her as a victim of this vicious smear campaign to try to make her appear to be a racist
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    Yeah, I know about Crystal Clanton. His behavior on the bench (and before it) was already objectionable enough without that hiring decision. Recent example of him being an odious hack:
    Harsh Language in Appeals Court Ruling Upholding Abortion Ban Is Criticized | Daily Report
     
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  11. tampagtr

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    His concurrence (Think it was a separate opinion from memory but I could be wrong), on Amendment 4, in response to a dissenting opinion that said the majority opinion would be viewed infamously in future generations, was a piece of theater and unconsciously (I think, I hope), paralleled the reasoning in one of the concurrences in Dred Scott about the Court being forced to dispassionately address the legal issues presented to them and being forced to rule the way they did, with a heavy heart, just doing their job.

    I had it all cut and pasted at one time but I think I deleted it.

    Evil man.
     
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  12. gator_lawyer

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    Yep. He also wrote the majority opinion, which is what empowered DeSantis and his cronies to charge those people recently for a crime despite them having no idea that they weren't allowed to vote. This is after both the district judge and original panel told the state they couldn't get away with that sort of behavior.
     
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  13. flgator2

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    Trump medical records, tax documents seized in FBI raid: judge | Fox News

    FIRST ON FOX: A federal judge revealed Monday that former President Trump’s medical records and documents related to his accounting information and taxes were seized during the FBI’s raid of his Mar-a-Lago home.

    A source familiar told Fox News that the FBI seized 40 years of Trump’s medical records from Mar-a-Lago during the search.

    Congressional Democrats have been seeking Trump's tax returns since 2019. Last month, a federal appeals court paved the way for the House Ways and Means Committee to finally obtain Trump’s tax returns from the Internal Revenue Service, under a law that permits the disclosure of an individual's tax returns to the congressional committee.

    Trump may seek emergency intervention measures from the Supreme Court in an attempt to temporarily block any release of those tax records to the committee.

    This is why a special master is needed
     
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  14. duchen

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    Wrong, particularly if his tax records were intermingled with the government records. Which shows dominion, control and knowledge. And the remedy, if any, is a motion in the court that issued the warrant or the court running the grand jury. Not a civil court. This opinion is an utter outlier. And she enjoined a criminal investigation that is the subject of a grand jury. If the grand jury issues a subpoena or calls a witness, what is the remedy? Contempt against the government? Contempt against the federal judge who oversees the grand jury?
     
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  15. citygator

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    Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Don’t mix top secret files with your health records and tax dodging documents.
     
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  16. gatorchamps960608

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    I still want to know under what authority a civil judge can stop the AG of the US from performing a criminal investigation.
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    Not sure about "everyone" but as far as Donald Trump is concerned and while it hasn't always worked out, in the case of Judge Aileen Cannon sometimes nominating a loyal sycophant who uses creative jurisprudence regardless of the law pays off.
     
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  18. tampagtr

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    You’re thinking so Deep State. Remember the paramount rule. DT is the “real America”, and all rules and legal standards must be interpreted to promote that imposed reality.
     
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  19. pkaib01

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    Interesting observation

    "So Trump has a colorable executive privilege claim against one agency of the executive branch (DOJ), but not another (ODNI), despite them being part of the same branch of government. Got it - completely coherent."

     
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  20. tampagtr

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    Interesting about how to view January 6

     
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