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Helluva speech by President Biden

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Trickster, Sep 1, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    he called out the most divisive element. Appeasement and accommodation of that element has only encouraged and empowered them. They needed to be called out and people need to make a conscious choice to support them or not
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    and then he went on to praise Putin and XI for ruling with an iron fist. How can anybody interested in democracy support someone who would like to rule the US the way Putin and Xi rule? ANd this isn't the first time he has said it..smdh

    Trump Repeats Praise of 'Smart' Putin, Touts Xi's 'Iron Fist' Rule of China (newsweek.com)

    Former President Donald Trump renewed praise for Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin during a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, on Saturday.

    "I got to know a lot of the foreign leaders and unlike our leader, they're at the top of their game. These are like central casting. There's nobody that could play the role in Hollywood—all of Hollywood, nobody could play the role of President Xi of China...He's a fierce person," the ex-president said.

    "Putin, fierce—they're smart. You know a lot of times I'll say somebody's smart and the fake news will go 'He called President Xi smart.' He rules with an iron fist 1.5 billion people, yeah I'd say he's smart," Trump then added.
     
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  3. Gator715

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    Besides the terrible optics of the blood red background with the two soldiers standing behind him, my big issue with the speech is "MAGA Republicans."

    What are MAGA Republicans? Is it anybody who voted for Donald Trump? Is it people who support traditional Christian values? Is it people who oppose abortion as a Constitutional right?

    Or... is it just the people involved in January 6th, some of which want to undermine our very system of government, an infinitesimal group in a country with 330 million people?

    Is he trying to conflate the former with the latter? Based on Democratic talking points for the last year and a half, it's hard to think he's not trying to conflate basically all Republicans he doesn't like as "MAGA Republicans." If he's doing that, he has some gall in saying that he's calling for unity in the very next breath.
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    Those that continue to support the claims of election fraud and advocate violence and intimidation as means of taking control.

    Question, how do you feel about DT repeatedly praising the way Putin and Xi rule? Would you want the USA to be ruled the same way?
     
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  5. Gator715

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    Can anybody define to me what a "MAGA Republican" is so I know who the bad guys are and we can have all of that "unity" Joe Biden promised us?
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    Uhhh . . .
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  7. Gator715

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    Is that it? Also, does this mean anybody who claims a US election was "stolen" is a threat to our republic? Or does it only mean the violent actors?

    If it's only the former, I have a pretty long list of people to show you that claimed that Trump stole the 2016 election. This list includes mainstream media members, politicians, and even Trump's rival who lost the election itself, Hillary Clinton.

    Because he's President of the United States, or potential President of the United States, and maybe he's trying to stroke their ego so he can make things better. Of course I don't want the US to be ruled that way. Obama said that the US has a lot to learn from Cuba's governance under the Castro regime. Do you want the government to operate like Cuba?
     
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  8. Gator715

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    Alright... go with it. I sincerely hope all of Biden's speeches look this way. Good luck with that.
     
  9. tampajack1

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    It’s clear to me that he was referring to people who continue to support the traitor named Donald Trump and continue to be election deniers. These are the people who support getting rid of our American democracy. To me, they are all traitors. Disagreeing on political issues is a different story and Biden clearly was not referring to those people as MAGA Republicans. IMO, Biden should have ended his speech about 10 minutes early. There was no need to deviate into listing his accomplishments. However, there should no longer be any beating around the bush about the threat to American democracy. Adam Kinzinger pointed out that he will be campaigning against every candidate who is an election denier and every candidate that is trying to put a system in place that will subvert the outcome of our elections. No one should be voting for the latter type of candidates regardless of what party you otherwise favor.
     
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  10. JustaGator

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    Red, White and Blue... how unpatriotic! smh...
     
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  11. philnotfil

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    I'm not sure how there could be any confusion about this, Biden was careful to make sure he identified who he was talking about in the speech.

    Remarks by President Biden on the Continued Battle for the Soul of the Nation - The White House

     
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    Maybe a mirror might help?
     
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    The Democrats including Biden have finally figured out that the 25-30% of the country that is ride or die with Trump aren't worth attempting to reach any more through standard means. If there is any hope for this group, it would require a level of deprogramming required to normalize a scientologist.

    And everyone can stop with the "soldiers in the background" stuff. There are multiple examples of Trump engaging in his vile political speech with servicemen in the background as props.
     
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  14. Gator715

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    So much unity guys.:D

    You are a perfect example of why any Republican shouldn't care about what you or Joe Biden have to say about us. You hate us, and you'll continue to hate us no matter what we do... so might as well do what we think is right. And if that happens to piss you off, might as well get our popcorn ready and enjoy the show.
     
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  15. Gator715

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    Because he also said the following:

    "MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards, backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love."
     
  16. Gator715

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    So to be clear, anybody who says an American election was stolen is a traitor to America?

    If not, which ones are traitors? Because depending on where you draw the line, you may be talking about a huge group of Americans, or you may be talking about a tiny group of Americans.
     
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  17. philnotfil

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    You can read for understanding, or you can take things out of context to make yourself feel better.
     
  18. Gator715

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    Oh, I don't think I am taking it out of context.
     
  19. Gator715

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    So is that the group Joe Biden was talking about? 25%-30% of the country?

    And if you include all of Trump's base, probably closer to 35%-45% of the country.

    Then, you guys have the nerve of calling this uniting? Enjoy whatever's coming to you, and that's candidates that will give you, Joe Biden, and people who think like you the finger.
     
  20. philnotfil

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    That is clear.
     
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