FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

she commissioned the server after being told no

she commissioned the wiping of the server

how do you reconcile those two facts to become an act of omission?

you know that I'm not a DT defender but lkets call the balls and strikes as they cross the plate without looking at the uniform on the pitcher

 

Has this been discussed yet? The full inventory has been released and 48 classified envelopes were found ... Empty.... Where the docs go?

Edit: Also 42 empty folders marked "return to military aide".

Mar-a-Lago search inventory shows documents marked as classified mixed with clothes, gifts, press clippings - CNNPolitics

 

Worrisome in what way? I presume you are concerned with a possible spying presence infiltrating her server. Basically a “broad” dissemination of lower level classified vs. an acute theft of high level secrets. Obviously neither are good, but I think I’ll disagree with your take about which was worse based on what we currently know about each case. Technically, we don’t actually know in either case that this stuff actually fell into the hands of adversaries.

Clinton did not mishandle top secret or SCIF documents. Her issue was that she occasionally “discussed” classified matters through the email server while in her role as Secretary of State. Yes, that’s an issue. But as I said, was never likely to criminal. There was some degree of IT/security incompetence, but at least she was aware enough to take truly sensitive stuff offline and if anything was exposed broadly to “digital snooping” it was the less risky material. There was no evidence whatsoever of mishandled TS or SCIF material. Trump literally had some of this highest level material stored at a Mar-A-Lago.

The risk with Clinton was some low level stuff was essentially left wide open to possible digital snooping, or that she may have “referenced” something classified in this improper channel. There was no evidence of “intent”. The risk with Trump is he apparently actively sought to possess copies of some of the nations top secrets. The question is why, but that he misled and obfuscated while keeping these documents indicates clear intent to illegally possess them. The only real question left is what he intended to do with them. Was he “shopping” them, were some already lost (the answer here appears to be yes), etc.

 

Being qualified to have a clearance is not necessary to be president. The president automatically has the highest clearances.

Eligibility is strictly defined in the Constitution. Age, natural born citizen and length of residency. Disqualification may be limited to the 14th Amendment.

 

No I get that. Just seemed unreasonable.

 

There was plenty of evidence that Hillary was doing her best to act properly. On her server, they found many more emails with Hillary stating that if the conversation were to continue, it would have to occur over a more secure channel than they found any classified docs. And many of the potential classified docs contained no secrets. The example oft used is the NY Times article with leaked information. The article itself isn't classified. Hillary Clinton and other top officials talking about who might be the leak may be. Someone emailed Hillary the article and asked who the leak may be. Technically a classified email, as the Sec of State discussing possible leaks is classified. But nothing damaging in the email, especially when Hillary's response was to reply she couldn't discuss it over her personal email server.

Trump's actions are clearly different. He lied about having these docs. He moved them to keep from the FBI, and didn't allow FBI to look at them even when they had a subpoena. It's not apples and oranges. It's more grapes and watermelons.

 

As I said, I’m not defending Hillary, had she been prosecuted I would have been fine with it. But the guy investigating called it carelessness. As the lead investigator, isn’t he the ultimate balls and strikes party here? This is what he said:
“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”
Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

Trump’s actions were the opposite of that, based on what we know today.

And I will say that if the FBI chooses not to prosecute and uses her case as a precedent, so be it. I just want the law followed, wherever that leads.

 

I don't think the founders foresaw an electorate knowingly electing someone that couldn't be trusted with NDI.

Truly sad times.

 

read elsewhere that DT didn't trust the disosal methods and that his preferred method was to tear them up and put them in the toilet

Trump Kept Unread Files in Cardboard Box That He'd Travel With: NYT (businessinsider.com)

The Times spoke to former Trump administration officials and staffers who gave some insight into how he handled documents.

According to the outlet, Trump had mistrusted burn bags, which were the designated means by which the Pentagon and the CIA disposed of top-secret documents.

Per the unnamed former officials that spoke to the Times, Trump didn't believe the material would be destroyed. Instead, he resorted to tearing up documents — including those with his handwriting on them — and tossing them into the toilet.

 

Call the doctor! Hillary Derangement Syndrome is making a comeback!

 

She had 3 mismarked emails dude. You're a joke of a person if you think this is anything like Trump's situation.

Per State Department policy as I stated earlier, she got to choose what to delete.

 

Bill Barr goes RINO

 

It's weird our new civil war supporting Trump poster doesn't want to chime in on this thread. Gee, that's curious...

 

43 empty folders for classified documents. No way did trump take empty folders to MAL. So where are the documents? What a damn mess.

 

What an absolute disgrace Trump is. The personification of herpes.

 

That's an insult to herpes.

 

Amicus brief on Cannon's inclination to appoint a special master for BS executive privilege claims.

 

The amicus isn’t amicable to trump’s petition for a SM.

 

So according to Brad's sources, the empty folders do have the equivalent of a tracking log.

So what happens if they cannot locate the former contents?