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FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duchen, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. StrangeGator

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    You need to back up and refute each and every bit of trash we spew out that supports the likelihood that Trump is guilty of at least three federal offenses and then defend each of the outrageous mistruths he has spoken to defend himself or blame the FBI and Justice Department.

    Try supporting your arguments with legitimate media sources. Those you cite fall very low (selective or incomplete story/unfair persuasion/propaganda) and to the right of the Media Bias Chart (hyper-partisan right/most extreme right.) You're never going to know what's really happening if that's all you read.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    bought being the operative word here. flabbergasted and disturbed how the law is being twisted by political affiliation with more and more regularity. without the rule of law, how will we survive as a society/country?
     
  3. G8trGr8t

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    ignore feature is more effective, just sayin'
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    so is he paying tax on the income? I mean, what would the rent be that would be charged to an employee that he is receiving as compensation? Big time tax evasion if his residence is a benefit of his employment...
     
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  5. G8trGr8t

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    he doesn't want to know the truth, it would shatter his world
     
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  6. flgator2

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    Lol, Yes we see the shit you believe in
     
  7. danmanne65

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    I just emptied my ignore feature. Getting ready for football season. Some of the most ridiculous posters in too hot are good posters in football threads.
     
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  8. StrangeGator

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    What do you believe? It's not apparent in your posts.
     
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  9. RIP

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    Just wait until you see my game day histrionics! I expect a banning at some point.
     
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  10. ursidman

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    That’s expecting a lot from a trump
     
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  11. GatorRade

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    This article makes basically the exact opposite argument:

    Analysis: Donald Trump's legal gambits offer fresh revelations and deepen his political risk - CNNPolitics

    The question at this point is simple: what makes the wnd argument the superior one?
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    Judge Napolitano wrote an op-ed. Lays out the case why he thinks Trump will be indicted and why rather succinctly.

    Yet, misreading and underestimating the feds, Trump actually did them a favor. One of the elements that they must prove for any of the three crimes is that Trump knew that he had the documents. The favor he did was admitting to that when he boasted that they were no longer classified. He committed a mortal sin in the criminal defense world by denying something for which he had not been accused.

    The second element that the feds must prove is that the documents actually do contain national defense information. And the third element they must prove is that Trump put these documents into the hands of those not authorized to hold them and stored them in a non-federally secured place. Intelligence community experts have already examined the documents taken from Trump’s home and are prepared to tell a jury that they contain the names of foreign agents secretly working for the U.S. This is the crown jewel of government secrets. Moreover, Trump’s Florida home is not a secure federal facility designated for the deposit of NDI.

    Where does all this leave Trump? The short answer is: In hot water. The longer answer is: He is confronting yet again the federal law enforcement and intelligence communities for which he has rightly expressed such public disdain. He had valid points of expression during the Russia investigation. He has little ground upon which to stand today.
     
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  13. Gator715

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    I'm in "wait-and-see" mode.

    All I have to say is that the FBI's case better be airtight, otherwise, this will energize Trump's base even more and give him some new life, and basically destroy all institutional trust the FBI has left.

    I'm not saying this is a "witch hunt." I'm not saying the FBI would treat anybody in Trump's position this way. But when the FBI goes after the chief political rival of the current President of the United States, they better do a damned good job of convincing the American people that this was a fair process, and I'm not talking about the liberals on Too Hot or Twitter, I'm talking about people in the middle, people right and left of center. But now, it seems like we live in a country with strong opposing narratives on both sides of the aisle for nearly every issue.
     
  14. Gator715

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    Frankly, I didn't think Hillary's emails were a disqualifying factor when she ran for office (I voted for her). But the fact that she wasn't indicted despite the fact that her emails likely were compromised by foreign actors, and the fact that she didn't have authority to declassify while Trump (who had authority to declassify) likely will be indicted, it's easy to see how that looks like a double standard.

    I know this isn't Comey's FBI anymore. I'm not in the camp that's saying this is definitely selective prosecution, but it could be. All I can say is Garland and the FBI better know what they're doing.
     
  15. AzCatFan

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    There are significant differences in the two cases. Hillary had a total of 3 clearly marked classified emails, and another 110 that were potentially classified. The ones potentially classified were items like an email with a NY Times link to an article discussing a leak either in the State or Defense Dept. The NY Times article was clearly not classified, but the Secretary of State discussing a potential leak is. And Hillary's response to this email was actually proper, saying to discuss further, the discussion had to take place on a more secure channel.

    Hillary also cooperated fully with the FBI. She handed everything she had over, and didn't obstruct.

    In contrast, Trump had a lot more than 3 clearly marked classified docs. He also clearly obstructed the FBI and didn't hand over everything he had, which is why the FBI eventually had to raid Mar-a-Lago. Last, Hillary had clearance to use her personal email for non-classified work purposes. Trump took docs that belonged to NARA after his presidency ended, and never should had those docs at MAR without NARA permission to begin with.
     
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  16. danmanne65

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    I am hoping for a plea bargain where he agrees to give up social media for the term of his probation. I don’t think locking up an ex president is in any bodies best interest. Just make him go away and shut up.
     
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  17. gatorchamps960608

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    His idiot lawyers keep hurting themselves and him too. One of the bimbos went on Fox and talked about how he always had people in that office including her and the documents were always stored in boxes.
     
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  18. ajoseph

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    Regardless, there is virtually no way charges will be brought against Trump, no matter how much a party wants it and no matter how string the evidence may be. Because in the end, he’s right about one thing — his ignorant sheep will flock to arms if he is indicted (and convicted), and the charges (assuming there’s no evidence he actually sold the information) as they stand are not worth the bloodshed that will follow.
     
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  19. G8trGr8t

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    my point exactly. If his residence is a benefit of employment then he has to claim that value on his taxes, one of the same felonies that his COO of his NY company just pled guilty too. Can't have it both ways. Estimate rent on a pad like that complete with house cleaners, etc would be around $50k per month or more so that is $600k per year in undeclared income. Seems like felony tax evasion to me if he didn't claim that income on his taxes

    Am I all wrong here or has nobody else picked up on this?
     
  20. pkaib01

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    Doesn't that put him above the law?
     
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