This was not caused by the pandemic. This was caused by idiot politicians and the response they inflicted. This is infuriating. I said long ago… This response and the damage to kids and education is the largest public policy disaster of our lifetimes!
Fox News had this 5 months ago. Of course, people on this board did not see the report: Children scoring worse in math and reading compared to before lockdowns, data shows: 'Multiyear recovery' | Fox News I'd like to see this news broken down by state.
Oh I believe that many conservatives would like to defund public schools in many ways. What I am skeptical about is the clearly demonstrated superiority of private schools today. They certainly appear to have more bells and whistles, but it’s tougher to demonstrate higher efficacy.
Interesting. Thanks. It’s a complicated problem, but many - most? - public schools are undoubtedly administratively top heavy. So are many corporations.
Part of the difference is public education schools cannot turn away special ed students. And on average, a special ed student costs nearly 3X a year to educate than the "average student." Private schools have the ability to charge accordingly or even turn down a student that doesn't fit their educational profile. Public schools have to take in all kids regardless.
That’s based on facts which have not been established to my knowledge, to-wit: how many students and teachers did not contract Covid and all the complications associated therewith. As they say, hindsight is 20/20.
Albeit imperfect, public schools are also eligible for federal funding to offset the additional cost burden of educating special ed students. Special Education -- Grants to States
Not the grammar police, but assume you meant "exacerbated", not "exasperated"? And politics aside you're more correct than not. Lack of teachers/bad teachers are only a part of the problem though. At the end of the day, it's still parent involvement (or lack of) that is/was the bulk of the issue. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I'd bet a lot that the kids who had involved parents as far as homework, assignments, tutoring if needed were a lot less behind (if at all) than those that did not. Those that blame teachers for bad grades without putting at least a significant part of the blame on the kid and themselves are the problem here.
Unions have been demeaned for decades, and wrongly. I’m not denying their failings, but I’m struck by how unions are demeaned for theirs when many other organizations have failings and are tolerated. Without unions, America would be far worse off. They have spoken for and defended working folks and prevented exploitation.
People that can afford to send their children to expensive private schools tend to more educated than the average citizen, so it makes sense that their children would be more high achieving.
If you guys honestly believe that kids going through private schooling are this freaking stupid, you've just got your head buried in the sand or somewhere else we shouldn't mention. The public schools are failing our younger generations.
I have no doubt that school closures set kids back, and it's very fair to argue about how Covid was handled. But as I recall, the decisions about closures, remote learning options, etc., were mostly made at the state level or even more local levels, and there seemed to be some places that went relatively back to normal earlier than others. Despite the differences in how Covid was handled around the country and according to the article, the test scores seem to have gone down in all regions - except that it says "there was no measurable difference in reading schools in the West." Not sure what to make of that outlier though, particularly given that the West saw a drop in math scores but not reading. Perhaps a lot of the kids were reading at home but not doing math. Personally, I'd probably have to give myself a re-fresher to do middle school math at this point.
I didn't say anything about whose students were more high achieving, and I have no data whether the students who perform well in either school outperform the other, in academics or in life. My comment was solely limited to funding.
Point being that you can underfund and get better results if your "raw materials" are of a higher quality.
What makes you think bad teachers don’t last very long? Curious because that seems counterintuitive to me and my experience.
14 days…maybe. But even we in Florida should have been back in school to close out the Spring semester of 2020. Thankfully DeSantis realized this and made sure we were back by the Fall of 2020. But the Spring 2020 set back kids in Florida. Especially those lacking the means. Our test scores represented that joke of a spring semester. Do I ever feel for the kids in places that kept them out of the classroom for a year/year and a half/etc… Note. The teachers are not part of this problem. This is all on the politicians who kept kids out of the classroom. Any politician /leader that kept kids out or fought to keep kids out of school from the Fall 2020 or later should not be allowed to hold office. They were part of the worst public policy decision in the history of our lifetime and arguably the history of our country.
Nobody teaches for the money. If you are bad teacher, you are probably going to be dealing with more parents as you are likely going to have more problem students. And as a bad teacher, you have more problem students because you are a big part of the problem. There are some bad teachers who say eff it and stay around anyway. But again, that's true in any profession. But if you are a bad teacher, you are only making a difficult job even more difficult. And again, at low pay, who stays in this situation for a long time?
