There is something seriously wrong with the training for Law Enforcement officers

Yeah however we did have a pretty long thread at the time of the Brooks shooting. That was one where I strongly supported the police and still do. This incident I support and understand the officers action but would not be as quick to defend him as usual. The action appeared to be long over but I do understand walking up on a shooting site while someone is holding a gun would be a bit un-nerving. That said the officer appeared to have reacted a bit quickly.

 

Well, I'm with you on Brooks, but can't imagine why on Earth you would support this officer's action.

 

This case is indicative of the problematic nature of the 2nd, not to mention how stupid is the notion that school teachers be armed. This man, after all, was merely exercising his rights, correct?

 

This looks pretty bad. At so point did I see any point where the guy raised his gun.

It’s a vicious circle. Everybody has guns. So cops have to have guns. When a cop has a gun and brings it to a scene he has to assume someone is going to take it. Since he has a gun there is always a tendency to go to it first. Plus the training cops get seems like it is shoot to kill first ask questions later.

IMO one more reason to not carry a gun in public. While at some level it may provide protection at another you have automatically raised the stakes of all situations and always have to be on the lookout for someone taking your gun or having to worry about cops overreacting to your possession of a gun.

 

I am usually in the cops are stupid and horribly trained and kill people for no reason but I get this shooting. Why did the guy still have the gun in his hand. Tuck it in your pants or drop it. I don’t know if it was a “good” shooting but to this civilian it’s an understandable shooting.

 

How is it understandable? Everyone has a right to bear arms and the citizen is entitled to not be shot just as much as the officer.

The guy was there the entire time the police were. He made no actions toward the police and the officer gave him no time to comply. Criminal action? No, but I don’t want this person patrolling, at least while armed, if they’re going to be this rash.

 

Holster your weapon or place it on the ground immediately upon clearing the area. If you are going to carry, then you need understand the responsibilities, which includes how others may react to an unholstered weapon when arriving on scene. That was on him

 

cop was too quick on the trigger. guy with gun presented no threat or made any threatening motion and wasn't given any time to comply.

 

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So many things wrong.
The guy should not have his gun out at that point. The ONLY reason to have a gun drawn is to shoot it it. Period . It’s not show and tell like what happened at the school in Florida a few weeks ago. It’s draw to shoot holster when done.
Any cop in the that scenario is going to be on edge. Especially with a guy walking around with a drawn weapon. Cops shot a guy before truly assessing the danger. Nerves, fear, stressful situation, drawn gun, … still not a good shoot.
Bad all the way around.
I’m all for 2A. I’m with an armed America. But I have long advocated for an educated armed America. Knowing how to use a firearm, when to use a firearm, and when not to use a firearm as mandatory for an armed citizenship. This video is just one example of why.

 

not defending the shoot, but anyone holding a gun should be considered a threat imo

 

I just watched the video. Wow. Who shoots in less than a second and then immediately holsters their weapon?

And of course they told a dying man to quit resisting.

 

So exercising the 2A makes you a threat and you can be killed for it despite being within your rights?

 

DeSantis has pledged to enact open carry in this state. What then? Do cops shoot whoever they see openly carrying a firearm? We are headed towards the wild, Wild West throughout the country. I favor banning assault weapons and open and concealed carry unless you need to carry a weapon as part of your job. There would be a buyback period for firearms. Thereafter, if you don’t turn in your assault weapon or you are caught carrying, you are effed. Same thing if you commit a crime with a firearm. You can still have firearms at home for protection, hunting or recreational use. I grew up in the mountains with every other truck having a rifle rack. Nobody shot anybody except for hunters accidentally shooting each other. Times have changed.

 

Not sure I said anything of the sort. I said I wasn’t defending the shoot. I do believe anyone with a gun in their hand should be considered a threat. I’m not as well versed as you guys on 2A, is it a right to approach an officer with your gun in hand? Quite possibly. Is it a good idea to do? How about approaching at a shooting with your gun drawn? That’s not a good idea ever. If you are pulling your gun out, there should be reasonable expectation that you could get shot.

all that said, I don’t defend the shoot. I have no knowledge of the officers protocols in that situation, but it appears he fired early.

 

At least he faced consequences instead of cover up

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