Jackson, Mississippi water system is failing; city will be with little to no drinking water indef.

Good explanation for why the state lets its infrastructure crumble when it troubles heavily black cities controled by political opposition. Flint probably had a Democratic mayor too!

 

Local governments apply for the money not the state. You might want to read the section titled How Should Your Local Government Prepare for Infrastructure Bill Funds. We had a thread specifically on this subject when the bill was passed. We also had a discussion about the funds when the Fern Hallow bridge collapsed in Pittsburgh Allegheny County.

The 2021 Infrastructure Bill: What It Means for Local Governments

Cleaner Water Infrastructure
The bill offers local governments grant money to improve on existing water pipelines and infrastructure. Consider applying to federal funds for improvement of the water quality within your community, replacing lead pipes, addressing water contaminants, improving dam infrastructure, and addressing challenges posed by draughts.​

 

what should something cost if not the cost to produce it? should everything required for life be subsidized for those under a certain income? at some point, people should take responsibility for themselves assuming they are physically and/or mentally capable of doing so.

in case you didn't know it, there are multiple private water and wastewater systems in the US and private systems are usually much better maintained than public systems as they are long term investments and not political footballs

 

the people suffering are the same ones that failed to elect people that would properly address the problem. In a sense, they are now laying in the bed they made. that is one of the problems with democracy, you get the gubmnt you pick, and people aren't picking using sound sense

 

Water is produced? Its a natural resource.

 

Faucets and pipes aren't. A great advance in the human condition. No more trips to the local source with buckets. Roman aqueducts were marvels.

 

potable water is not a natural resource. If it was, we wouldn't need all them expensive water treatment plants, let alone all those piping systems and pumps to distribute it. I guess gasoline should be free because oil is a natural resource. Strange world you live in where everything is free. fyi, nothing is free

 

Yet somehow we build schools while having free public education k-12

 

I don't disagree. Of course, one could say that the bad example, since the very concept of public education is under intense attack, to the point of near defeat

 

Right and I'm sure given the chance they would love to do with water what they did in Chile or Bolivia

 

Right, but oil consumption is literally destroying the earth, and water is essential to life. Just because education or water is subsidized doesnt mean you have to subsidize other things. Its not all or nothing.

 

No doubt at all. Our political perception of Latin America is a funny thing. We have and still make sure that RW authoritarianism is the standard governing model. The few exceptions are regularly cited by US politicians as examples of the failures of left-wing governments. There's some truth to that, but we also bear a lot of causation, deliberately. Jorge Bergoglio ascending to the Throne of Peter from Argentina is an unintended result and a source of exposition of that trend

 

That Chile and Bolivia are led by people well to the left of any US politician is not-coincidental to past attempts to impose privatization schemes on them by US corporations and interests that US citizens would balk at.

 

Amen, amen, amen. Chile's recent results were held to be an electoral repudiation of outsources economic governance to Milton Friedman. Some of my RW buddies hated that characterization

 

Potable? On that we differ - if that were the case humans would have been extinct a long time ago.
Locating and Utilizing a Natural Spring as a Drinking Water Source

Typically, natural springs can be found in hilly or mountainous terrain. The common definition is a “place where natural outflow of groundwater occurs”. Water from natural springs is ground water, and not surface water and thus, is typically free of contaminates that would otherwise be associated with surface water or open water sources.


Generally, spring water is of good quality. Pathogenic contamination is not very likely if the source meets certain criteria. Criteria would include the thickness of the soil layer, the type of soil, and the pace of infiltration of the surface water, in other words, how fast would rain water filter down through the soil to replenish the spring. The soil formation should be substantial enough for natural soil filtration and biological action needed to remove “pathogenic organisms” before the water enters the aquifer feeding the spring.
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What is the purpose of a water treatment plant?

Have you ever heard of water treatment plants? Have you ever wondered, what is the purpose of a water treatment plant? The purpose of a water treatment plant in simple terms is to purify wastewater to a safe level.

Wastewater that has been run through a water treatment plant can be safely released into the environment. When this treated water mixes in with the water in rivers and canals, it doesn’t decrease the water quality.​

 

The standard definition of potable water is below. Some raw water sources can be safe for drinking but can also be easily contaminated and certainly cannot be used for community distribution systems. We had an artesian well at our property in Clay County where I grew up that we used for our water but it certainly wouldn't provide for a community or for fire protection. You are referencing raw water safge for drinking, that is different from potable water. We routinely fill ou camelbak with snowmelt on certain trails in Alaska but know that we are subject to getting what is known as beaver fever if some critter happened to contaminate it. The sheer volume of flow in the streams we tap is such that it is very unlikely though

Potable Water - Water Education Foundation

Potable water, also known as drinking water, comes from surface and ground sources and is treated to levels that that meet state and federal standards for consumption.

Water from natural sources is treated for microorganisms, bacteria, toxic chemicals, viruses and fecal matter. Drinking raw, untreated water can cause gastrointestinal problems such as diarrhea, vomiting or fever.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) National Primary Drinking Water Regulations establish maximum contaminant levels (MCLs) for various contaminants.


Your next clip is factually incorrect as it refers to the purpose of a wastewater treatment plant, not a water treatment plant.

a water treatment plant purifies raw water and adds chlorine or chloramines to disinfect the water such that bacteria cannot grow in it or the distribution system used to provide the community water supply.

 

I agree that not all water is drinking water yet it does occur naturally otherwise we all would be extinct. I agree water will have contaminates and it depends where you get it from. I agree wells are not suffiecient to provide for communities and water has been collected for centuries to serve that purpose (cisterns come to mind).

And what do you think we do with waste water?
Is Sewer Water Recycled?

Wastewater is recycled for the following purposes:

• Irrigation
• Industrial uses
• It is sent into rivers and underground to mix with groundwater and is then sent for purification
• It is purified and then converted into drinking water

Yes, the US does recycle water. In fact, it reclaims 1 billion gallons per day of wastewater. ​

 

@Gator40 why the come on man?

 

You're right. It was my fault. I didn't mean to hit anything on your post. It popped while I was scrolling on my phone and didn't notice. I undid it.