No Sign of a Red Wave; Plenty of Signs of a Dobbs Wave

And again. What about the non religious who feel they lost a BABY?

 

How many of them were raised in religious households or have had their beliefs in that heavily influenced by organized religion?

 

Another thread turning into a third rail discussion that will change no one’s mind? That’s odd.

meantime, semi back on topic. I don’t think anyone really wants to win in Pa.

GOP nominee for Pennsylvania governor Doug Mastriano wore Confederate uniform for faculty photo

 

Maybe interesting to note that despite hearing the “heartbeat” at about 6 wks being a line that is drawn for many people and some state legislatures it’s just that we have developed the technology to hear the electrical impulse causing some cells to twitch rhythmically. It is far, far from an actual heart beating at that time.

 

Earthworms have a heart beat too and we gouge them with fishhooks and use them as bait.

 

Yes, but they are hermaphrodites so who cares.

 

This is interesting:


It'll be fascinating to see how the ranked-choice voting goes. Palin could lose to Democrat Mary Peltola.

 

Not all of them. The point is this argument dies at the atheists door.

 

Uh no, it doesn't. This is like arguing that dropping out of college is a good idea because of Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs. It's not a coincidence that people's stances on abortion have strong ties to their religious views.
American religious groups vary widely in their views of abortion

 

That's some lump of cells alright...

 

Prople keep acting like its a fantasy world question that I keep asking, but the % of atheists believing abortion should be illegal in most/all cases sits in double digits. It has slowly dropped, but I found the number still surprisingly high.

Religious Landscape Study

The "Secular Pro Life" movement is one based on a belief in full human rights.
Welcome - Secular Pro-Life

 

Where are you getting that it decreased by 5%?

 

I misread one of the many charts it has actually decreased from 13% to 11% that want it banned.

So the most recent data in that study shows 11% of atheists want it banned. That is lower than I said above, but I would argue still surprisingly high. I will edit my earlier post.

 

Idaho - women serve solely as vessels

 

Millions of Americans raging about some women having to drive hours to kill their babies.

 

I'm not sure that I agree that 11% is a high figure, as it translates to basically 9 out of 10 not wanting it banned. That seems fairly overwhelming. But speaking as an atheist, I understand those that struggle with this issue since all atheists would likely agree that this life is all you get, no afterlife is really on the table. Ending that one and only opportunity for life certainly isn't to be taken lightly.

 

“But what about rape ?” is likely what brings it to 9 out of 10 not wanting to allow baby-killing.

But this whole imbroglio is silly. Abortion hasn’t been banned in the US. You can always drive to the killing state near you.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/09/abortion-midterms-kentucky-michigan/

So will the Christian Taliban get the message, or will they continue to try to jam their religious values down our throats?


Abortion rights advocates score major midterm victories across the country
Even in heavily Republican states, voters demonstrated strong support for abortion access in the wake of June’s Supreme Court decision

The biggest surprise came in Republican-leaning Kentucky, where an antiabortion amendment was defeated, clearing a potential path for abortion access to be restored in a state with one of the country’s most restrictive bans.



In Michigan, where Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) was reelected in part by presenting herself as a champion of abortion rights, voters approved a ballot initiative that will enshrine the right to abortion in the state constitution — preventing a 1931 abortion ban from taking effect.

And in North Carolina, Republicans failed to win a veto-proof legislative supermajority, ensuring that Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper will continue to have the power to block abortion restrictions in a state that has become a critical access point for people seeking abortions across the Southeast.