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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. enviroGator

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    You reported in March .... despite just joining this Monday. Interesting.
     
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  2. homer

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    Please don’t feed the troll.
     
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  3. uftaipan

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    Took me about 15 seconds to find Putin’s denials he intended to invade Ukraine in the days before he did it.

    U.S. Ramps Up Ukraine Warnings as Russia Denies Invasion Plans

    You are not very good at this by the way. I mean, at least you don’t drop your articles like most Russian speakers (i.e. “find lie” instead of “find a lie”). You probably should have stuck with your probable initial instructions from whatever the NKVD/KGB/GRU calls itself these days and just made trouble in the Fauci, abortion, and 1/6 threads, riling up the extreme left and right. When you got emotional and tipped in to the Russia threads because someone insulted Marshal Putin, you revealed a little too much.

    No American, no matter how right wing or anti-interventionist, believes some of the nonsense you were stating as facts. We just aren’t as disinformed over here. For instance, the purifying Ukraine of Nazis BS, even MTG probably got a laugh out of how lazy that one was. That NATO is weak relative to Russia, and Germany couldn’t last five days against Russia blah, blah, blah … dude, over here we can actually see how bad the Russian military is, completely defeated in the field in the conduct of every complex combined-arms operation … and not solely by the skill and bravery of the Ukrainians but by the incompetence of Russian planning and execution. You were supposed to have air superiority in 12 to 48 hours. You still don’t have it, six months later, and you think you can lock horns with our air forces?! Comrade, please. I asked you about Russian war dead. To your credit, you didn’t just cite the official Kremlin statistic, but you still way lowballed the Russian dead and inflated Ukrainian military dead by a factor of probably 10.

    I wouldn’t even post here anymore if I were you. Your handlers are going to see how quickly you were identified and retire you with extreme prejudice. Actually, now that I think about it, punishment for poor intelligence work is probably being sent directly to the Left Bank of the Dnieper for “anti-Nazi” duty, so you just might get to see up close and personal the soup sandwich that is your military.

    PS — I absolutely love the characterization of the defeat and retreat from Kiev as an elaborate deception operation. I mean, genius. You even had the massive KIAs to make it look real. Having the soldiers dig in around Chernobyl and get ARS from the contaminated soil was a nice touch, too. I think we should likewise characterize the 2021 football season as an elaborate deception operation meant to lull Utah into a false sense of security.
     
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  4. uftaipan

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    Request denied. We got a live one here.
     
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  5. submarine

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    I reported on twitter on March 23 that a highly placed source told me a Beijing-drafted ceasefire agreement was close to being signed by Putin and Zelensky. Biden stopped the deal from happening because he wanted war, hoping it would strengthen his image and help Democrats in the midterms. Here''s an excerpt from an August 24 post at one of the top foreign policy blogs, Moon of Alabama. It matches up well with my March 23 tweet:

    "On March 29 France24 summerized its daily report collection with this:

    Ukraine proposed adopting neutral status and a 15-year consultation period on the future of Russian-occupied Crimea as long as a complete ceasefire with Russian forces is agreed, negotiators said at the conclusion of peace talks in Istanbul on Tuesday. Despite Russian vows to "radically" reduce military operations near Kyiv and Chernigiv, Western officials urged caution.
    The Kremlin's hope for a fast end of the conflict was disappointed when, a few days later, Zelensky suddenly refuted all the concessions his negotiators in Istanbul had made.

    This followed a phone call between the British prime minister Boris Johnson and Zelensky on April 2 and Johnson's visit to Kiev on April 9."
    MoA - Ukraine - Wrong Assumptions, Wrong Conclusions - And A Lot Of Dead Soldiers


    This is the first tweet of a 3part thread I put up on March 23.nNot3 in the 3rd tweet I said Biden did not want a ceasefire:

     
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  6. sierragator

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    Clearly the troll would have a much greater impact by posting on the Georgia Bulldog board, just sayin. Adios Vlad.
     
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  7. submarine

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    FAIL. Putin was telling the truth when he said Russia was not intending to invade Ukraine. Russia said the same thing every year from 2014-2021. A Russian spokesman was asked why the Russians had so many troops on the border and he said it was to protect Russian-speakers from Ukraine military forces.

    So what changed in 2022?
    1. Ukraine increased their shelling of the Donbas 40X in a matter of days, from roughly 60 to over 2500 rounds fired.
    2. Zelensky started talking about acquiring nuclear weapons on February 19. No Russian president would allow a Nazi-infeszed government on their botder (Russians lost 23-32 million people in WW2)
    3. Russia learned Ukraine planning tto invade Donbas with 100,000 troops. Ukraine admitted this was true a week or 2 ago.
    Russia entered Ukraine legally under the UN Charter. R2P (responsibility to protect).
    Academi (formerly Blackwater) was operating in eastern Ukraine at this time. Biden administration/Deep State goaded Putin into invading, ready to fight to the last Ukrainian.

    Scott Ritter has studied the Russian military for 3 decades. His analysis of what happened regarding Kiev is the same as my own. No way Russia tries to take a city the size of Kiev with 30,000 troops. 100,000 would be needed (getting those numbers from memory). IOW, to take a city your forces can be outnumbered by roughly 30:1 but not 100:1
     
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  8. RIP

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    "Smartest female geopolitical thinker on planet "

    You married to dad?
     
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  9. enviroGator

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    Ah man.. I want to give you "fistbump" "best post ever" "wish I had said that" but they only let me pick one.
     
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  10. oragator1

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    I guess the cool thing for me is that this thread big enough that it rated needing a BOT or server farm friend to jump in.
     
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  11. chemgator

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    When you say "highly-placed", do you mean above your parent's basement? Maybe your parent's kitchen? Do you listen in with your ear against a glass pressed to the ceiling down there? Just trying to help you out, comrade.
     
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  12. vaxcardinal

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    but I dont follow you so you obviously have no credibility.
     
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  13. chemgator

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    Wasn't Scott Ritter the Deputy Director of Operations (DDO) of the CIA who screwed over Jack Ryan in "Clear and Present Danger"? This guy IS well-connected. He might have cable TV in the basement, possibly Netflix. I was afraid he might be living in fantasy-land--I'm glad to see that's not true. For all we know, he might have had Jack Ryan himself over for dinner last Thanksgiving.
     
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  14. chemgator

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    So what does Dilbert have to say about all this? Is Dilbert working for the State Department now?
     
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  15. vaxcardinal

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    what I want to hear from the sub is when the next season of Jack Ryan is coming out
     
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  16. vaxcardinal

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    Scott Adams needs to stay off of twitter and focus on Dilbert...the last couple of weeks of Dilbert has sucked
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    and I'm the King of England
     
  18. G8trGr8t

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    yep, another one for the ignore feature. don't give em oxygen, they go away
     
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  20. uftaipan

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    No, that was Bob Ritter, a character much more positive, plausible, and complex in the source novel, reduced to a one-dimensional villain in the film.
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    Comrade Submarine was referring to Scott Ritter, a former Marine and UN weapons inspector, a current disgraced pedophile.
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