"Who cares? Another dead cop": Florida firefighter terminated after text messages surface

I mean, I detect no lies there, but always a bad move to make it public

 

On the fence about this one. Being fired is probably the right thing in this case because he is talking about his job specifically and is in a position of authority; however, what is private anymore? Really nothing can be said or written without putting one’s career and job in jeopardy.

 

Damn, that dude’s got some serious issues. Now he’s adding unemployment to his list!

 

People need to think before they open their mouth or use their fingers to say something.

 

If you are putting anything out on an email, text, IM, PM, or anything else, you have to assume the risk of possibility/probability that those you sent it to will forward or share it with others.

 

I don’t disagree with anything he said. But he’s a moron for sending that presumably to a bunch of firefighters. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

If this was said in a group text then I think it's wrong to fire him. If it was any sort of public platform then yes he deserves it but group chats especially off duty shouldn't really apply unless they expose themselves as racist or imply dereliction of duty and get reported.

FTR there are usually specific regulations in departments regarding public decorum, social media etc but isn't a "group text" still private?

 

Ironically, if he was in a police union, he'd probably still be employed. If you arent in a racist group chat, you cant be a cop these days.

 

Somebody told me 20 years ago that when you do anything online you should assume the whole world is going to see it. Didn’t believe it then but did it anyway because I respected him and he was more tech savvy than I. He was right.

 

Nah. I don't make those generalizations. Every field has racists and because cops have power its a terrible combination for those that are but I know hundreds of cops and firefighters, there are good people and bad people in both fields and pretty much the same amount in each.

I don't judge people by association. There are scumbag firefighters, military, police, doctors, teachers etc etc

 

As the joke goes, nobody ever wrote a song called "@*$*$ the Firefighters"

 

CaNcEL CuLtUrE!!!

 

Well he put his own integrity in question. That much animosity toward someone who you may have to save one day is scary. He isn't cut out to do that job.

Imagine if those words became public after a cop died under his care.

 

Not going to be a pleasant time when Miami police and Miami fire play each other in next charity softball game

 

i don’t know about that I have a friend who’s is a retired cop. He still gets between people and danger, it’s the way he is wired. He also uses non modern terminology for certain ethnic groups but he would take a bullet before letting some innocent person take one.

 

I can tell you at least with 13 years experience as a fire/medic who works with police often, I have heard plenty of politically incorrect speech by the same firefighters and cops that also never exhibited any hesitation whatsoever to handle their responsibilities while responding to a call. Are there some really bad actors out there? No doubt there are and while some have been exposed we know there are more out there but there is a difference to me in being politically incorrect/crude and overtly racist. I've yet to see cops or medics qualify the persons color,ethnicity or status when responding to vehicle accidents, shootings/stabbings, overdoses, fires etc. For that reason my opinions about these things are pretty nuanced and I don't like generalizations.

There was a social media incident locally a few years back that resulted in the cop losing their job and rightfully so. He mocked MLK day and posted a pretty ignorant edited photo. It was a private snapchat to a group that someone reported. It's very similar to what happened here but it targeted black people. No way should he have been allowed to be a cop when he outed his feelings about the people he has authority to pull over or investigate. To me that was the difference and why his termination was justified.

 

I never said otherwise. I said his integrity is harmed and imagine if a ethnic minority were killed under your friends care and his words then went public.