Christians starting to stand up against the Trumpification of evangelicals.

My vaccine position has proven correct. But hey. Keep boosting.

 

Start at the 24 minute mark. Happens around the 25 minute mark.

The context of the discussion is that the culture has redefined terms “nationalism” in this case to take a negative connotation. There is no reason to run from that. We should think highly of traditions and the things like that. We should should think highly of the blessings we are afforded. There is no reason to run from people trying to push a negative connotation to something that is positive.

The people on this board who peddle the “Christian nationalist” view are typically just trying to agitate with hysteria. Mohler does not want Christianity to be the state religion of this country. But he is not going to run from the idea of the blessings this country has had through the Christian lens.

Most people in this country use to be proud of it. A “nationalist” position. As Mohler discussed…in the 60s you would have seen a very small difference in the pub and dem platform and could even argue the dems were more hawkish. But we certainly see a lot of negative views towards it now. A lot has changed over time.

I am not saying there are zero people out there who claim to be Christian and are actively trying to establish Christianity as our state religion. They are wrong. And the good news is they have zero influence in the grand scheme of things.

 

If you listen to the podcast you will understand the discussion was on the redefining of terms. “Nationalism” in this case.

So if you are part of trying to redefine the term to a negative connotation. He is not going to run from it. He is just not going to let a bunch of key board warriors create their own definition of something and run scared.

If you think he wants to establish Christianity as our state religion. You are just wrong.

 

I suggest you take the time to understand these articles are nothing more than food for the hysterical used to agitate.

Unfortunately I suspect you will continue to be a part of the problem. I hope I am wrong.

 

Your understanding of a Church leader and Political leader does appear to be lacking.

What do you call a supporter of hrc? A CINO?

 

Context matters. I am not a fan of the gotcha quotes out of context. I appreciate you taking the time to find the part of the podcast.

I don’t believe Al Mohler admitted to be a Christian Nationalist. He was speaking in the context of Nationalism and Conservatism.

edit: not sure what to think. Now I can’t tell if Mohler was embracing it? Why is the GOP going this route??

 

Lets see, he's a Christian, a nationalist, but its not fair to call him a 'Christian Nationalist?'

 

There is no doubt that the term "nationalism" has a negative connotation now. If Al Mohler came out and was pushing to establish Christianity as the religion of America. I would call him out all day long. But that is the antithesis of the fruit I have seen from his Christian beliefs and his teaching as a Bible scholar.

It is tiring and concerning that we have to worry about people taking one moment and creating a manipulated context for it. Writing on the internet is ripe for it. It is gets tiring having to repeat something you have said 20 times (hyperbole) in a thread to help keep context. There are some on too hot that will just miss the context and acknowledge that when shown. Others are ready to run with a false narrative...

 

What is your point? A Christian cannot vote or they are a CINO?

 

Weird. I had never really focused on this topic as something to be worried about... suddenly I see articles because of Google AI telling me MTG wants to make the GOP the Party of Christian Nationalism. Good Lord.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...m-calls-make-gop-party-christian-nationalism/

 

I agree with this def from Christianity Today. & by this def, there are a lot of Nat Cs out there.


What is Christian nationalism?

Christian nationalism is the belief that the American nation is defined by Christianity, and that the government should take active steps to keep it that way. Popularly, Christian nationalists assert that America is and must remain a “Christian nation”—not merely as an observation about American history, but as a prescriptive program for what America must continue to be in the future. Scholars like Samuel Huntington have made a similar argument: that America is defined by its “Anglo-Protestant” past and that we will lose our identity and our freedom if we do not preserve our cultural inheritance.

Christian nationalists do not reject the First Amendment and do not advocate for theocracy, but they do believe that Christianity should enjoy a privileged position in the public square. The term “Christian nationalism,” is relatively new, and its advocates generally do not use it of themselves, but it accurately describes American nationalists who believe American identity is inextricable from Christianity.


What Is Christian Nationalism?

 

Are you being dense on purpose? A person who supports a man like Trump, and/or displays the qualities you do on this site, is a CINO, not in his or her deeds.

 

She’s another perfect example of a CINO. I love the message of Christ, and it so dismays, and aggravates, me to see it so utterly perverted by people like her.

 

Another hero of trump followers….

“The church is supposed to direct the government. The government is not supposed to direct the church. That is not how our founding fathers intended it.……I’m tired of this separation of church and state junk that’s not in the constitution”

Rep. Lauren Boebert

 

Nationalism only has a negative connotation to people who aren't nationalists, pretty sure the "America First" people don't think its a bad thing, which is why people might say they aren't going to run from it when asked about Christian Nationalism.

 

Christians want this country to be predominantly Christian? I'd say the first step would be to start acting like Christ. "And if necessary, use words...."

 

You have no clue what you are talking about. Are you saying a person who supports a woman like Hillary is not a CINO?

You have your preconceived biased opinion about me from disagreeing with my positions on a political forum on too hot. The thing that is dense here...is that you refuse to acknowledge this reality.

So again...

Is your point that a Christian cannot vote?

Because all candidates fall short of the Cross!

 

You do you.

Not sure you are achieving what you think you are though...