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TX to DC Illegal Immigrant Busing - Some Bus Companies Not Completing The Trip?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cflgator83, Aug 18, 2022.

  1. cflgator83

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    Georgia already has a pretty big burden having a big agricultural industry and getting some overflow from Florida.

    Besides DC and NYC I want them dropped off in lily white Democrat places like Delaware, Vermont, Minnesota, Illinois, New York, Connecticut, Oregon and Washington. Those Senators and Representatives are hypocrites as they support open borders knowing it's not in their backyard, that it won't affect them. That is what needs to change.

    I'm tired of states like Florida, Texas and Arizona being the dumping grounds. I would feel bad for California, Nevada and New Mexico since they are in the same boat but they want it.

    Is it really so wrong for those states to, as Democrats like to say, contribute their fair share? Is it really wrong to ask those states to take up some of the burden instead of it just going to the border states? Of course we know they'll never do that because they don't even truly care about Hispanics. It's just about flooding conservative areas with Hispanics to try to flip the vote and cement their power forever.
     
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  2. gatordavisl

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    So what we've learned here, is that unarmed Texas LEOs need to escort immigrants on Greyhound buses to liberal cities, while indoctrinating them to white American baseball culture and teaching them to speak English. And I mean ONLY English, dammit!
     
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    He likes Japanese because they make weird pillows for freaks.
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    Yeah, you really should get out more. New York and Illinois are hardly "lilly white." Minneapolis has huge Somali and Hmong communities. Oregon and Washington have large agricultural industries. And, if we are speaking of Central American immigrants specifically, some of the biggest communities are in places like DC and New Orleans. Immigrants are holding up the populations of a lot of shrinking cities in the Midwest as well.

    'They're addicted to me': How immigrants keep U.S. heartland cities afloat
     
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  6. oragator1

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    I live in metro DC, and I would bet our illegal immigrant population is as high or higher than Georgia proportionately. DC alone has 4 percent of its population as illegals. And NY, IL and NJ are in the top 6 states already for illegal immigration. And of course a quarter of all illegal immigrants Aires in California. Texas and Florida combined have less than California.
    https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/f...lation Estimates in the US January 2014_1.pdf
    So dem states are already shouldering their fair share of the burden. But hey, maybe Wyoming and Montana would want some too? They should provide their fair share no? Or is it just Dems who should do their part?
     
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  7. cflgator83

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    They are outside of NYC, Chicago and Minneapolis. I've been to some rural areas of Washington and Oregon. I remember not seeing a single non-white person for days at a time. Only time I ever saw non-whites were obviously in Portland and Seattle. Trust me, outside of the cities those states are lily white.
     
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    Idaho and eastern OR/WA are lily white. Portland and Seattle are very diverse. Both with large Asian and Hispanic populations. Seattle metro is about 14% Asian and 9% Hispanic.
     
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    The difference is it's your side who wants them. You want them, you should get them. Why should we have to suffer just because you want them? Our side would be happy to have limited safe legal immigration. It's your side who wants wide open borders and chaos.

    As far as I'm concerned it's your problem, not ours, to deal with. So yes I do think that Democrat states should shoulder more of the burden. You all wanted them!!

    If I was DeSantis or Abbott I'd be bribing them with transportation and $1,000 cash to get them all to DC, NYC, Chicago, Boston, New York, California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Delaware, Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts and Minnesota.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    Who wants chaos? And truly open borders where people are free to move back and forth?

    What the rational people want is a better immigration plan that allows supply of immigrant labor to legally meet demand. A plan like the Gang of 8 plan was a great start, and isn't open borders, and doesn't promote chaos. Neither does a system like DACA, which has been a financial success for the country. Hundreds of millions added to the economy and tax rolls.
     
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  11. cflgator83

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    Go to Ocean Shores, WA, Port Angeles, WA, Cannon Beach, OR, Tillamook, OR or Hood River, OR and tell me those areas aren't lily white. And they aren't even close to eastern OR/WA. I've been to all of those cities and didn't see a single non-white person around or at least very few (less than 2% of the population probably).

    Portland and Seattle you're absolutely right. Once you get outside those areas and their suburbs it's lily white.
     
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    Put every criminal, homeless and person on welfare in this country to work and then we can talk about illegal immigrant supply to meet demand.
     
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    But aren't you trying to say that you want them sent to places like NYC, Chicago, and Minneapolis? Beyond that, sure, if you exclude diverse areas in states for the fact that they are diverse, the states become much less diverse.
     
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    Not really. Those states are all Democrat controlled states anyway so it really doesn't matter what area of the state they go into.

    I'm saying outside of maybe one or two cities those states aren't diverse. Definitely not like Texas, Florida, Georgia, Arizona or Nevada or even other states like North Carolina, South Carolina, Mississippi, Louisiana, New Jersey, California, New Mexico or Colorado.
     
  15. oragator1

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    it’s not my side, I don’t like illegal immigration either and have been consistent on that for years. But I do like an honest fact based argument on it. Not demonization, or fantasies about functional thousand mile walls, or that somehow republicans are bearing the brunt of this and making themselves the victim.
    And much of what’s been posted hasn’t been accurate. Just pointing that out. The idea of sending them to a place where they know no one, have far fewer services that understand them etc to make a political point that isn’t even valid helps no one. And human beings, even if they broke the law, being used as pawns to serve a “we pwned the libbies” argument isn’t humane or decent.
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  16. cflgator83

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    So you're completely okay with Florida, Texas and Arizona being dumping grounds just because "they have families here"? And those states shouldn't have a say in the matter? Just take our medicine and deal with it. Sorry but that's a non-starter for me. Maybe, I don't know, help the entire family move? Set up services for them? The Democrats do largely want open borders and very loose immigration policy. They need to then step up and get their hands dirty. No more of this "oh we want immigration but not in our back yard".
     
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    So you want them sent to the rural areas of those states filled with Republicans? Okay. But, good news for you, that is happening too in a lot of places. It turns out, the people in poor, rural places don't want to stay there working at some food plant, so they reach out to immigrants for those jobs.
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    Total homeless population in this country is less than 600,000. Total number of undocumented in the work force is currently over 8 million. Drop in a bucket, and that's assuming all 600,000 can hold down a job, which isn't the case. About 25% of all homeless have a serious mental condition that makes it very difficult, if not impossible to hold down a job. Another 25% have mental conditions that need treatment for them to become contributors to society. And we can't force these people to take their meds every day.

    And I lived in Seattle metro for three years, and been to the Oregon coast. Whiter than Seattle, yes, but still not lily white. Places in eastern part OR, WA, and Idaho are 99% white. Oregon coast is closer to 95%, and becoming more diverse as the state grows. Nice place to live. Love Seaside and Depoe Bay.
     
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    Those states are lost anyway. Everyone knows the rest of Illinois could go blood red and the Democrat is still a lock due to Chicago. Same with California with Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Jose. Same with New York with NYC. Same with Virginia due to DC.

    Heck I would tell those conservatives to move to an area where your vote actually counts. Help keep the conservative states conservative. Move to Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona and Nevada.

    You're a conservative who lives in New York, move to Pennsylvania. Live in Illinois, move to Ohio or Michigan. Live in Virginia, move to North Carolina, Live in California, move to Arizona or Nevada.
     
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    Have you checked out apple orchards in Washington State during harvest? Just asking.
    Washington State Fruit Grower Hit With $2.25 Million Immigration Fine
    Apple-picking time: Washington sees record foreign worker visas - UPI.com