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FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duchen, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. AzCatFan

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    Again, the raid on MAR isn't about Jan 6. It's about Trump not cooperating with the DOJ on the return of documents that don't belong to Trump, including 11 packets of classified materials that Trump's lawyer stated Trump no longer had in an affidavit. Trump lied, and still had the classified documents, including documents marked TS/SCI, which are highly sensitive documents. If you can explain to me why we should allow a former POTUS to have these documents stalled in a pool house closet, at his residence, that also doubles as a country club, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, the National Archives and the FBI did the right thing by first asking for these docs to be returned, and when that didn't work, getting a subpoena. And when that was ignored, a warrant.
     
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  2. philnotfil

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    Another article saying that Biden isn't pressuring Garland. Interesting.
     
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  3. ETGator1

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    Again, until the affidavit is released, you don't know this. The FBI took way more than they should have. Nora O'Donnell of NBC News basically called Trump a liar when Trump said he wanted his passports illegally taken back. The FBI originally claimed they didn't have the passports until Trump showed his list of items taken with passports on the list. So much extra stuff has been taken in the raid that it has likely queered any chance to get Trump on the records taken which was zero anyway.

    I keep telling you "intent" is the standard. Trump may not want to take time out of his day to review records, but he certainly wasn't intent on taking any criminal actions and the raid was 100% unjustifiable which is why they are trying to keep the affidavit hidden from the public.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    So we are supposed to give Trump, the least truthful president in history, the benefit of the doubt, but we are to assume the FBI, in conjunction with the Attorney General, are up to nefarious aims and surely have committed multiple crimes in the process.
     
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  5. gatorchamps960608

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    Idiots think that "stronger with the GOP" means more likely to win the presidency. Meanwhile, independent voters will run full speed away from him due to his crimes.
     
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  6. gatorchamps960608

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    People have tried to explain this to you multiple times, but when you refuse to return stolen property twice a search warrant is perfectly acceptable on the third attempt to recover said property.
     
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  7. pkaib01

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    Long thread on the likely complexities of processing the documents recovered from MAL. I think we should be prepared for a ton of leaks as other agencies are called in.



    This is an unfortunate reality:

     
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  8. vaxcardinal

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    Really not that complex. What is complex is minimizing leaks.
     
  9. AzCatFan

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    So it's OK to have TS/SCI documents at your residence that also doubles as a business as long as you have no intent on using the information against your country? And it's OK to ignore a subpoena requesting you return said documents?
     
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  11. sierragator

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    Yeah, we get it. everyone is corrupt except the lying sack of shit at mar a lago.
     
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  12. BossaGator

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    I guess this belongs here. On the issue of Trump not getting good legal advice - largely because elite legal talent won’t touch him as a client.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/16/trump-lawyers-fbi-raid/

    it’s not exactly a new situation. His DOJ was pathetically inept and suffered from a lack of professionalism and expertise. Barr was desperate to bring in experts from private practice, but had little luck because the administration was largely viewed as not worth working for. As it turns out, working for Trump the President or his administration has proved to be something of a career-killer.
     
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  13. AzCatFan

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    Michael Cohen, Trump's former fix it lawyer has a theory on why Trump kept the documents. Cohen thinks Trump was going to use them as a bargaining chip in case Trump ever got in legal trouble. Cohen thinks Trump would've threatened the docs release to stay out of jail.

    Not sure I believe Cohen. Of true, Trump made a huge error in underestimating Garland. But Cohen does know Trump better than most, and Cohen's theory does explain why Trump had another lawyer lie on the affidavit claiming all classified materials were handed over. And why Trump ignored the subpoena to hand over the docs.
     
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  14. gatorchamps960608

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    And...

    1. He doesn't pay his lawyers' bills.
    2. He needs lawyers with TS/SCI clearances and that is a small and elite group.
    3. They know he's guilty as charged.
     
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  15. g8trjax

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    Can't wait to see what else the dems have up their sleeves...two years is a long time.
     
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  16. gatorchamps960608

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    The Dems didn't take those boxes illegally to Florida.
     
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  17. pkaib01

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    The Dems didn't make up probable cause.
     
  18. pkaib01

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    "Subpeanuts" - classic
     
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  19. g8trjax

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    Well, evidently he's had whatever supposed crucial documents for 2 years now, so the timing of all this appears kinda suspect.
     
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  20. gatorchamps960608

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    In deference to his former job, they were politely asking to get them back for more than a year. He refused to fully comply.
     
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