Election officials in TX county quit after being threatened and stalked

I understand your argument. I just dont see it coming to fruition.

For starters MOST Trump voters that most of us know arent in love with him to start with. They certainly arent going to back a coup attempt that jeopardizes our republic. The number that would is noisy and dangerous... but small.

 

An ongoing pattern of "some" Trumpers out over their skis. In Brevard County where Trump gets 60% of the vote! At least our County Supervisor of Elections is invoicing them for these records searches. $20,000, $50,000 and even up to $385,000.

Brevard Supervisor of Elections faces calls to 'fix' voter rolls

 

It will manipulated at a state/local level. These trump style politicians are ready to go against the will of the people. And republicans are attempting to put them in key positions.


“First came Kristina Karamo, who claimed without evidence that she witnessed fraud as a 2020 election observer — and who in April became her party’s pick for secretary of state, Michigan’s top election official, after repeatedly touting those claims.


Next was Doug Mastriano, the firebrand state lawmaker from Pennsylvania who urged his colleagues to throw out Joe Biden’s 2020 victory. In May, Mastriano secured the GOP nomination for governor, a position with the power to certify the state’s slate of presidential electors.


this month, Arizona Republicans nominated Kari Lake for governor and Mark Finchem for secretary of state. Both are outspoken election deniers who have pledged that they would not have certified Biden’s victory in their state.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...rs-march-toward-power-key-2024-battlegrounds/

 

Huh?

Believe me, I hope you're right. But . . . .

70% of Republicans still believe the 2020 election was stolen, despite zero evidence, all the recounts, all the audits, all the court cases, and all the media declaring that Biden won.

If all the media in 2024 reports that Trump "won" on paper, despite all the cheating, nearly 100% of Republicans, 30-40% of Independents and some Democrats would believe it.

All the partisan State legislatures have to do is simply not count thousands of Biden (?) ballots they deem fraudulent, report that Trump had more votes, and give all their electors to Trump. How do you prove them wrong or that they cheated? They have control of the ballots, voting machines and the counting of votes. The facts would be irrelevant in those States.

Most Republicans still falsely believe Trump’s stolen election claims. Here are some reasons why. - Poynter

 

One could argue that's a difference between the two sides. A version of the "fight or flight" response inherent in all people.

 

Things have reached a point in this country where the supporters of Trump
are traitors, plain and simple, because to support Trump is to destroy our democracy. These traitors include elected leaders like Rick Scott, Rubio and Kevin McCarthy. Trump supporters obviously do not like the policies of the Democrats, but that is no reason to want to be willing to destroy our democracy to get what they want.

 

Donald Trump and his supporters cannot he considered conservatives. Some are fascists, some are willing to support fascism, none are conservatives.

 

You realize this is something that has never even remotely come close to happening, right? This is about as unlikely a scenario as could be imagined and would take military intervention pretty much every swing state level.

 

I don't disagree with this sentiment at all, but I believe that the Cult of Trump is more of a symptom than the disease. Reference the "Apathy" to "Dependence" verbiage in Tytler's Cycle. Pretty close.

 

One set of nuts threatens part of the SCOTUS and the other side of the nuts threaten election people. One side is right the other is wrong according to sample of various nuts.

 

They've already tried. That doesn't count as remotely close to happening?

 

That’s a bit harsh. Some citizens support trump reflexively- the other party detests him therefore I must support him. Some support him because they invested heavily early and will not admit the mistake and acknowledge they were duped (publicly). Some are predisposed to cult ideology and MAGA offers that to them. And, sadly some believe the lies - that the other side are baby-eating, socialists-communists groomers who all voted four times and for their dead grandparents on bamboo infused paper ballots provided by China and manipulated by Italian satellites or something.

 

Remind me again where the military was involved (except with quashing an unorganized bunch of idiots?) That's nothing close to the scenario described.

 

The scenario he described was about a state throwing the election to Trump even though Biden won the state. Repubs openly tried to do that in 2020 and openly talk about doing it in 2024.

 

Wrong. A small fringe group made noise about it in 2020 and it's continuation talk in 2024 by the same group of fringe idiots, and once again remind me where the military got involved. I'll say it a second time for clarity: "It would take military intervention at pretty much every swing state level." The chances of a scenario like this occurring are miniscule because of the way the system is designed. In a somewhat profound case of irony, the EC that the left excoriates makes this scenario even more unlikely to occur.

 

I'm generally not given to hyperbole, but I think you're really underestimating the pernicious threat to our elections. As elections go, so goes the country.

 

By 'small fringe group' do you mean the Trump administration? Because that's what they were pushing for in 2020 and now they are trying to install even more officials at the state level who will do it for them. There are many Republicans who support this kind of thing and a majority of Republicans believe the 2020 election was stolen. To pretend that the chances of it happening are 'minuscule' is very naive.

 

The scenario described didn't have the military involved. It asked what the military would do in the scenario described. Michigan was one election official away from living that scenario.

 

Yep, nothing to worry about:

 

Two things here. One, the courts (rightfully) upheld the certification of the election results so we can "what if" until the cows come home. The courts and the system did its job as designed and it really wasn't even as close as you describe. Two, Michigan still wouldn't have changed the results. The scenario would have to have played out in multiple swing states making it infinitely more difficult.