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Polio/Vaccine Hesitancy?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Jul 21, 2022.

  1. cocodrilo

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    A Trump supporter attacks people as authoritarians and as being tunnel visioned. I've never seen the kind of projection that constantly appears on this forum.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    Uhmm...that was Australia
     
  3. ncargat1

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    Also the United States. I don't know what the international travel requirements to and from the US are since I no longer travel internationally for work.

    Unvaccinated Djokovic out of US Open tuneup in Cincinnati - NBC Sports
     
  4. altalias

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    Novak Djokovic US Open saga takes fresh twist as USA confirms Covid rule changes

    The United States Government have introduced new measures which will loosen Covid restrictions on quarantine and social distancing. And Novak Djokovic's chances of playing in the US Open have been given a boost by the fact the US are showing they are open to changing their rules. But Djokovic still cannot currently play the US Open and admitted after his win at Wimbledon that he didn't feel confident about his chances of playing in the final Major of the year.
     
  5. QGator2414

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    Calling a spade a spade. People see it. Coercing and forcing people to take a new drug they do not need or want is the height of authoritarianism. Forcing kids to wear masks for no reason as well. But hey…if you want to deflect from this reality. Go for it.
     
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  7. cocodrilo

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    You attack authoritarianism and support a traitor who tried to overthrow the government and needs only another election to become the dictator he wants to be. This is the last time I'm going to bother arguing with anyone in the Trump cult because it's nothing but a complete waste of time.
     
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  8. enviroGator

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    Q once again reminds me of our poor ol Kerwin Bell.

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  9. QGator2414

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    Some of you have no clue what you are talking about. I know the propaganda is strong but Trump did not try to overthrow the government. I don’t know if you want it to be true or whether some just really want to believe it. I personally don’t want Trump to run again. But I would absolutely vote for him…
     
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  11. RealGatorFan

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    I'm not going to say the mRNA vaccines don't work but they definitely didn't do what they were originally intended to do. The original thought back in late 2020 was that the new vaccines would prevent one from getting Covid 94+% of the time. Nothing is 100%, we all know that. But what happened in the 4 months after that was the number of breakthrough cases, first with an entire pro baseball team, to members of Congress, then to the general public. By the time Spring 2021 rolled around, the CDC stopped talking about Pfizer/Moderna's efficacy numbers of 94 and 95%, because it actually dropped to less than 20% by the summer. In fact, Delta almost made both vaccines at 0% effective at preventing you from getting Covid. After all said and done, the CDC was left with only one reason to get the vaccines - it helps you from getting real sick. That theory is about to get turned upside down too with Israel about to finalize their study. Israel is the only country on the planet were nearly 100% of all adults have received both doses and a booster. They have been studying the number of serious cases and deaths to the % of those without the vaccines and they are seeing that it almost made no difference, especially for those between the ages of 18 and 49. Furthermore, because getting the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting Covid, the sheer numbers of those that got the vaccine helped Covid build immunity to all known versions of the vaccine. In short, we will spend eternity playing Whack-A-Mole because we will have to redesign a new vaccine every year to handle the dozen or so new variants that have rendered the older vaccines impotent.
     
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  12. BLING

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    I don’t think your statement on Delta is correct, the vaccine was reduced against Delta but was still effective. Delta was also a much more serious variant. So even a partial vaccine efficacy through that time period saved alot of lives.

    Perhaps you meant to say the Omicron variants (and subvariants) where the vaccine currently has much lowered efficacy and the virus itself spread like wildfire regardless of vaccination status. But this currently circulating variant also isn’t nearly as bad as the delta variant (in terms of % of hospitalization and deaths). We have never seen the surge in hospitalizations from this Omicron variant from the time it first emerged in South Africa. I wouldn’t quite say it’s a nothing burger, but it isn’t the same public health crisis that Delta and original virus were capable of.
     
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  13. enviroGator

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    I fully understand "your concern" however you have it backwards.

    Blaming the professionals who said "you need to get vaccinated" and not the mad-hatters who were spreading lies and disinformation about the COVID vaccine.

    I've read your drivel enough to know if anyone is causing your kids to fear vaccines it is you.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    LOL.

    Kids are not making the decisions to get vaccines. My kids are vaccinated. That said they have not taken the Covid shot.

    And the few “professionals” who peddled the policy for Covid have been disasters!

    The propaganda is strong for you my friend.