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Florida teacher says district worker removed several pictures of "black heros" from his classroom

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Aug 11, 2022.

  1. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    I'm quite guilty at one time or another of esteeming myself "to highly," but this is not one of them. Thanks for your wife's service. Sticking it out in the teaching profession is more than commendable. This squelching of perceived wokeness and CRT (though so ill-defined), is a serious issue. If you disagree, that's fine, but you have the option of abandoning the thread and addressing the WH issues you are so concerned with.
     
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  2. jjgator55

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    Maybe it doesn’t. There are people out there who do a job because they like it, not because of the money. Yes teachers want to make a living wage but are happy with less than working a job they hate with a higher wage.
     
  3. gatordavisl

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    That makes better sense. :)
     
  4. BigCypressGator1981

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    I tend to agree here. I don’t think this guy was acting as a ward of the state working on behalf of governor Desantis. Was he possibly emboldened by him to act out like he did? Maybe. But let’s not pretend this was state sanctioned and not just some rogue dipshit - which I feel like is more likely. Fire the guy and move on.
     
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  5. gator7_5

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  6. snatchmagnet

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    This is exactly what this this. To even start a thread in this is ridiculous. If any of us chose to we could find as many as we want for whatever political side we’d hope it helped.
    Single moron. They’re everywhere
     
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  7. snatchmagnet

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    Teaching is a rough go right now. It’s a political mess no matter where u live. My point was that this is really a pretty insignificant deal. One stupid faculty member. Just seems like a distractionary thread. Not even sure if distactionary is a word. Lol
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    Very serious.
     
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  9. StrangeGator

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    Then why does the state of Florida have a huge teacher shortage going into the new school year? They're obviously not happy. Teacher salaries in Florida are fourth lowest in the US and now the have a governor who's telling them how to do their job.
     
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  10. gator_lawyer

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    Teacher: "School district employees did a bad thing."
    School District: "The teacher isn't being honest. Yes, we did the bad thing, but we had reasons for it."

    So we're supposed to disregard what he said because the school district offered a facially plausible reason for why they did exactly what he said they did?
     
  11. WarDamnGator

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    Maybe we should to see how this resolves before you decide it's not worth talking about? This district level employee was obviously a superior to the teacher, since he could removing his posters without even a discussion on the topic first. What if, let's say, the district employee defends his actions by saying a law was passed in Florida that makes it illegal to have student's "feel discomfort" in the classroom, and that parents can sue if their child is made "uncomfortable" ... and maybe too many "black hero" posters could make the white kids feel inferior, or at least allow a parent to make that accusation? I'm guessing that was the train of thought, anyway. Maybe even this employee's superior told him to act this way ... worth talking about, IMO, since we are actually talking the direction that DeSantis wants to send public education in Florida.
     
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  12. snatchmagnet

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    Yeah, Desantis is behind taking down black heroes. Lol.
     
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  13. WarDamnGator

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    I didn't say that, I said the laws Florida passed could be -- and have been -- used to make educational information about black history illegal if a parent says it makes their child "feel discomfort", so now school boards have to decide what they can allow while taking into account anything that could trigger some unhinged closet racist parent.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    Bingo!!!

    My daughter had her first day of high school yesterday. It was a fine day for her. However a close friends niece going to the same school had a rough first day. Some of it was stuff that will work out (not knowing anyone in any of their classes/friends will be made). But there was one bad apple teacher who failed her and a couple of freshmen on their first of high school. We had all sorts of communication telling us no parents at orientation to a ridiculous point if we get it. Our kids are getting big and they need to figure things out on their own. I support this idea. But after a rough day said student from above was having trouble finding their bus and idiot teacher told them they need to be responsible and figure it out. They ended up missing their bus along with two others (I found out later). The student did exactly what we would want. They had the intuition to seek help in a chaotic situation and was failed by an arrogant teacher. Thankfully I am confident this teacher is not the norm. They are an outlier that hopefully learns from their failure or gets out of the profession.

    Assuming the teacher from the OP is telling the truth…they dealt with a rare situation that should not have happened. Just like the niece of our fired dealt with a rare situation that should not have happened.

    ***edit:appears the teacher from the OP may have been creating the situation after reading the districts response after their investigation***
     
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  15. Emmitto

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    Yeah, that would indeed be beyond egregious. And if true, I myself, as a teacher, would be all for that teacher getting the due process invitation to be successful in another location (I had a colleague actually use that language to fire someone, pre-teacher life.)

    But if true, it is indeed an outrageous outlier. We spend all day everyday walking students through the mechanics of managing a day at the beginning of the year, normally for weeks. “Grace” is used so often that I am eye-twitching back to my corporate days of management jingoism. But the truth is, it is indeed paramount. This is one lingo trend I embrace.

    My new school pounds home that students are people first. See the person, now make them a student. I admire that they plainly say it. It’s not necessarily a different concept, but the emphasis makes a difference. I run a tight ship, it is easy for me to conveniently slide right by the fact that I have 150 souls that have 150 different life-circumstances. I have to make a concerted effort to consider that this “maniac” is likely not a maniac at all. It is quite possible this 15 year-old is in my room because it’s by far the best place she’ll be today. Her acting out is perfectly understandable.

    And for that reason I have zero “grace” for the bad ones of Us. GTFO, after your two days of “due process.”
     
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  16. jjgator55

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    Of course they’re not happy. They haven’t been happy since Bob Martinez took the lottery money that was supposed to supplement education, and used it as they’re main source of funding. Things got worse under JEB. It was then teachers came under attack from right wing radio and the whole voucher scheme with public schools being told their funding depended on test grades.

    Once schools overwhelmingly reached those goals, they would raise the standards and saying teachers must teach according to what they called best practices. More voucher schools were created with no accountability, but school districts had to provide the money from their budgets to fund them.

    Now we have DeSantis pounding in the final nails into the public school coffin with his restrictions, bans, and threats of imprisonment. What teacher would want to teach under those conditions unless they couldn’t find work doing anything else. So now schools are looking for people without college degrees to do that job.
     
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  17. metalcoater

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    Something seems one sided.
     
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  18. tampajack1

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    The State legislature and governor clearly are interfering with teachers from kindergarten all the way through college, and the teachers are not happy about it. In a recent quite large survey at UF, 63% of the teachers said that they would prefer teaching elsewhere if they could find a comparable position. That’s not good.
     
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  19. gator_lawyer

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    Not exactly true. Don't get me wrong, HB 7 is a steaming piece of unconstitutional garbage. But it doesn't require what happened here.
     
  20. StrangeGator

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    Tell them to come to Illinois.