China warns of new Langya virus that has sickened 35 people

Is that like "a lot of people are saying" or "many people say"?

I never heard that it keeps you from getting covid, or spreading it. It would lessen the symptoms and prevent most people from going to the hospital. They still wanted people to wear masks, which deniers refused to do because it violated their rights some how. So, as predictable as one could imagine, it took a lot longer to get to this side of the pandemic.

 

There are no side effects showing, or at least not nearly as much as the right wing portrays it to be. Stop getting your news from far right wing lunatic news sources that make BS up. The major side effects usually happen within 15 minutes of the vaccine being administered, hence the wait time they make you go through afterwards to make sure you don’t have an adverse reaction. Then after that, you may feel under the weather for a few days after and then it goes away. These imaginary long term side effects don’t exist, that’s not how vaccines work. All of that stuff is out of your system quickly.

It’s so funny how vaccines and boosters trigger conservatives so much. You’re allowed to be ignorant and not get them, but stop trying to convince others otherwise and judging them for their decisions. Last I checked, you don’t have a medical degree or anything related to the science field, so piss off.

 

Let’s pretend for a minute that a highly contagious pandemic began with a virus that has upwards of 50% mortality. If an experimental vaccine existed, would you take it?

 

Just another ignorant Trumper who doesn’t get how vaccines work. They never ever say that they’ll prevent you from getting it, just that it will dramatically limit the symptoms you get. You know, just like any other vaccine you get ever. Sure, you still could get it, but chances are you’ll be feeling way less crappy afterwards. Don’t see what’s so hard to understand.

 

Nah, cause Freedumb. Let the science deniers who don’t understand basic concepts of how vaccines work not get it, the IQ of the human population will greatly increase.

 

Or the fact that we were working on the vaccine long before the virus showed up. We are working on vaccines now for viruses that are circulating in wild animals now. We just hadn't done the research on people.

 

I am thankful that covid didnt impact you.

Many were not so fortunate.

 

Like literally no one thought that.
And for months it did slow the spread.

You were one bad bout of covid from having a different opinion my friend. Just be thankful and let it go.

 

Not trying to fight for either side here but you need to go back and see what Biden and his admin was saying about getting the vax.
As far as masks go, if the mask is not properly fitted, it basically dose nothing. If you have any fascial hair it does practically nothing. If the material it is made of does not filter down to the micron size of covid, it does practically nothing. Those are undisputable facts about mask wearing.

 

No one mocked the virus for the most part. They mocked the reaction to the virus and rightfully so.

 

Geez dude. A lot of generalizations in your statement.

Recent polling shows that Republicans are nearly as likely to get vaccinated as WOMEN in general So are you going to tell them to piss off too?

The truth is most republicans and conservative independents have been vaccinated.

Also, we have no idea if there will be long term impact. You cant make absolute statements while condemning someone else's absolute statements. And yes, I am fully and happily vaxed and have been for some time.

I disagree with FLgator on this stuff. We've gone at it many times, but this thought that he represents republicans or conservatives is nonsense. He is in an ever going minority.

I will say this though. Had many of us that had reservations early on not been called granny killers or child killers on this very board, its conceivable that fewer people would have dug in their heels. It's human nature.

I literally was asked how many old people I had to kill before I would get the vaccine and that was when the vaccine was new and many were still deciding.

 

People mocked the virus. Called it funny names. The POTUS said it would be gone in like 2 weeks. One (now banned) poster said more people would die from lightning strikes than Covid. Another referred to it as a "walk in the park" compared to Bernie Sanders issues.

I'm sorry, I'm just not down with mocking this stuff. Even if some of it is politically built... And I believe some is... it is what it is and I wont be mocking it.

Good natured jokes are one thing, but pompous mocking seems like spiking the ball on a TD that's getting called back for holding.

 

Both administrations messaging on Covid was wrong. And driven in large part by politics. .

45 didn’t initially believe it existed and underestimated it.

46 thought the initial vax would cure it completely.

Both missed.

End of the day, the vax certainly slowed things down and reduces symptoms but subsequent, milder variants have proven more resistant to it. With a low 90s effective rate for the initial vax and common math, it was pretty obvious the vax wouldn’t “work” for everyone, even if it did eliminate it for those 90%.

 

I was going to give a detailed response to this error filled post, but realised it would be in vain. I'll pick just one instead: the vaccine is not really a vaccine. That is utter hogwash and contrary to what virtually every scientist says.

1,000,000 Americans died of COVID, most of whom did not get vaccinated and who were infected by those who weren't. Have you ever wondered how many you might have infected, or have you just not given a damn?

 

I liken the vaccine to the annual flu shot. I typically don't get the flu shot. The reason for this isn't because of some aversion to vaccines, but because of the sheer statistics of it.

In a given year, there can be upwards of 20 different variants of the flu running around. Most of the annuals only address 10-20% of those (based on WHO guidance). Those numbers simply aren't enough of a sure thing for me to want to deal with a needle (I effing hate needles). The covid vaccine was based on a single variant and at the time there was only the single variant running around. That made much more sense to me even if it was only 80-90% effective.

That said, the political screeching about it from the fringes on both sides reminded me a lot of Dr. Seuss' "The Sneetches". What message of outrage can I gull these rubes with?