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Roe v Wade Overturned

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  1. tampagtr

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    Yep. Didn’t feel like typing all that
     
  2. mdgator05

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    Also, if you look at the county results, the suburbs/small cities are big time against this. Only in very rural areas was this popular.

    Shawnee County (Topeka): 66% against.
    Sedgwick (Wichita): 62% against.
    Johnson County (KC Suburbs): 69% against.
    Wyandotte (KC, Kansas): 74% against.
    Douglas (Lawrence): 85% against.
     
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  3. docspor

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    I don't care where you stand on this or any issue, trying to trick voters should come with some severe consequences.

    Kansas Abortion Texts Traced to Ex-GOP Rep’s PAC: Report

    A political action committee led by a one-time Kansas congressman spent more than $26,000 on sending out a misleading text message urging Kansans to vote for an amendment that would strip women of their right to an abortion under the state constitution, according to The Washington Post. The text message was crafted by Do Right PAC and sent out via numbers leased from Alliance Forge, the Nevada-based, Republican-affiliated tech firm. “Alliance Forge did not consult on this message’s messaging strategy or content,” the company’s chief executive told the Post. Do Right PAC is chaired by former U.S. Rep. Tim Huelskamp, a conservative who served between 2011 and 2017, and who did not respond to multiple requests for comment from the Post. The newspaper was tipped off to the Huelskamp PAC’s involvement by multiple unnamed sources close to the matter. The original messages instructed Kansans to vote “YES on the amendment [to] give women a choice” and “protect women’s health.” But a “yes” vote on Tuesday’s ballot would be to vote against the abortion rights movement, doing away with legal abortions.
     
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  4. gator_lawyer

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    The Kansas Governmental Ethics Commission ruled that what they were doing is legal. (Yeah, I know. Ridiculous.)
     
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  7. citygator

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    I’m confused. That math doesn’t exclude Trump voters voting pro choice.
     
  8. ursidman

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    And many obviously did.
     
  9. VAg8r1

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    Not good news for Republicans especially in states and/or congressional districts with close elections. Other than the results of the vote on the substantive issue of abortion rights what is really significant was the exceptionally high turnout for a midterm primary driven almost entirely by the Constitutional amendment. Until fairly recently Republican enthusiasm for the midterms was much higher than that of Democratic voters. The issue of abortion can very well end up being a game changer. While I still think the Republicans will regain control of the House their margin will be much smaller than originally predicted and it's very possible that the Democrats could end up expanding their majority in the Senate maybe even enough to eliminate or seriously limit the use of the filibuster.
     
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  10. pkaib01

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    Here's an interesting thread that lists the ads shown in Kansas by pro-choice groups.

     
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    Teen’s jailing shows exactly how Facebook will help anti-abortion states

    For the first time since Roe v. Wade was overturned, there's a clear example showing exactly how Facebook will react to law enforcement requests for abortion data without user consent.

    Forbes reports that a 17-year-old named Celeste Burgess in Nebraska had her Facebook messages subpoenaed by detective Ben McBride, who suspected that Burgess' reported stillborn birth was a medication abortion. In the officer's affidavit, he explains that he asked that Meta not notify the teen of the request for her Facebook data because she might tamper with or destroy evidence. Court records show that Meta complied with the logic.

    Meta did not immediately respond to Ars' request for comment on this case, but previously, Meta has said that "we notify users (including advertisers) about requests for their information before disclosing it unless we are prohibited by law from doing so or in exceptional circumstances, such as where a child is at risk of harm, emergencies, or when notice would be counterproductive."

    In this case, no child was at risk of harm because the abortion occurred in April, months before the data request in June. There was also no emergency seemingly. That leaves some other kind of "exceptional circumstances" to justify Meta sharing the data without notice, or else this case counts as being "counterproductive" for Meta to provide notice, as McBride suggests in his affidavit.
     
  12. gatorchamps960608

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    Completely disgusting.
     
  13. tilly

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    Yeah. I don't think so. Literally no basis in the scriptures for that opinion.

    He would likely be more gracious and less vitriolic than some on the pro life side.
     
  14. PerSeGator

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    AFAIK, Jesus never addressed political issues, so, assuming the bible provides an accurate account of his teachings, it seems likely wouldn't say anything on the subject one way or the other.
     
  15. tilly

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    1. Jesus addressed political issues.
    2. The greek word used in Lukes gospel when Jesus talks about a human being having been born actually insinuates they were already a human being.
    3. Regardless of interpretation of the greek word used, no one can take anything Jesus said and make a statement that he would have been pro-choice.
     
  16. gat0rs4ever

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    Just because a majority thinks it is okay to murder someone does not make it right or legal. I remind you at one time in our nation's history, you could have replaced with % of people who support the right to own and kill slaves. Does it make it morally right? Murder is murder and certainly is nothing to be celebrated like the kooks on the left do in their abortion parades.
     
  17. gator_lawyer

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    You're welcome to your insane beliefs. But a supermajority of us don't want to live in your Christofascist theocracy where 10-year-old rape victims are forced to give birth to their rapist's baby.
     
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  18. PerSeGator

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    What political issues?
     
  19. PerSeGator

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    And to be clear, there is a distinction between thinking Jesus would tell a woman not to get an abortion, and thinking that he would tell the government it should make a law on the subject.

    I can see the argument for the former, but not much for the latter.
     
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  20. tilly

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    He dealt with taxes and capital punishment right off the top of my head.