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OU Asst. Coach Cale Gundy resigns after reading "shameful word"

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. wgbgator

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    Also said a lot of other things that have given him a 'reputation' around here
     
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  2. homer

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    Employers have standards and punishment set for issues like these. They are the same for all or there can be a discrimination challenge if different punishments occurs for different races, etc.

    It happened at the City of Tampa when I was working there. The mayor (Sandy Friedman) put in place a list of words if used while on the job would get you fired. No exceptions. The first 3 people affected by the N word were black. They were terminated.


    I would advise anyone who uses bad words at home or around friends be careful because when you slip up at work it’s too late. A standard has been set at Oklahoma. It better be followed from this point on.
     
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  3. ursidman

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    Well, there's still Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys
     
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  4. phatGator

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    Same here! :D
     
  5. Gator515151

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    In my opinion there were 3 misuses of the word. First there is absolutely no valid reason why one human being should be allowed to use a word and it being taboo for another person so he should not of referred to himself as a blind N. Second I understand it was wrong for me to repeat the word but I honestly believe he was not upset at me repeating what he said otherwise he would have objected on the spot. The third and most wrong use of the word was him going to the county with the complaint simply because I failed the job due to a code violation that he either tried to get away with or did not realize it was done wrong. It was his way of getting back at me for not turning a blind eye. To use my repeating what he said as a means to get even makes the N word more of a tool than a legit insult.
     
  6. ursidman

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    I posted it last night - just his resignation letter - on the Bullgator page but it was gone this morning.
     
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  7. Gator515151

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    I have said it over and over again, in life I treat everybody the same so when I see a lot of outrage because a person of a certain race or a certain nationality does not receive special treatment I'm going to speak against it. My own brother in law was shot through the heart while committing a robbery, outside of his mother nobody raised a fuss over it. Why, he put himself in that position. Had he been black his mothers objection would have probably gained more traction and I would have felt the same, he put himself in the situation. It is the act itself that is important to me not the persons race, who here thinks there would have been riots and 20 too hot threads if George Floyd had been white?
     
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  8. murphree_hall

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    Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequence. You can legally say the word and not go to jail. You absolutely have the legal right to say it… you just can’t say it to anyone anywhere. I can tell my friend to shut the blank up. That doesn’t mean you can walk up and say the same to him without potential repercussion. We have this double standard for many words, sayings and phrases. It is not limited to one particular word.
     
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  9. murphree_hall

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    Maaaan… where is this world some of you live in which black people get whatever they want? Lol
     
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  10. librarywestpatron2005

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    If the word was just said aloud and not maliciously, then a 30 day suspension would’ve sufficed.
     
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  11. phatGator

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    Someone losing their livelihood is the 21st century version of “off with their heads.”
     
  12. Gator515151

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    So in this world of equality is there a word or phrase that would be OK if I said it to you but would be frowned upon if you said it to me?
     
  13. gator_lawyer

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    Because I'm white.

    Great example of how a person who isn't a malicious racist can engage in racial discrimination (since we were talking about this recently).
     
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  14. l_boy

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    Yes that is the point. It is discrimination. An unwanted result of having to treat black people differently. I’m not saying that is good. I’m saying it is inevitable.
     
  15. gator_lawyer

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    But it's not based on anything real, only speculative fears and unconscious biases (which goes to the point I was making about systemic racism not being about individual racism).
     
  16. murphree_hall

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    Absolutely.
     
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  17. ajoseph

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    No. It’s not racism. It’s societal expectations. It’s understanding the pulse of the environment. It’s not sticking a head under a rock. It’s the “rules of the playground” - the rules may not be written but we all understand what they are and the consequences for breaking them.
     
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  18. l_boy

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    So is this war against the N word doing anything productive to advance the interests of blacks?
     
  19. ajoseph

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    No. But words can be incredibly offensive, and hurtful, and dangerous, and context matters. At least that is my opinion.
     
  20. l_boy

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    The word in itself is not hurtful. It is uttered all the time. It is only hurtful if so one with white skin pigmentation says it. If you are 1/4 black and 3/4 white heritage it is probably ok. So what is the percentage where it goes from hurtful to ok? Is it a function of dna, or is it a function of actual skin color and tone?

    Exactly how are people hurt and put in danger by a coach reading the word from his players device? Granted it was a bonehead move on his part but still.