OU Asst. Coach Cale Gundy resigns after reading "shameful word"

You seem to be suggesting that if blacks use it amongst themselves it’s okay for whites to use it. I couldn’t disagree more. I don’t know why some blacks use the n-word, but the fact that they do gives whites zero right to use it given the history of racism in this country.

 

WINNER!

 

It *is* a different standard but not entirely unique and pretty understandable. Women call eachother all sorts of names that I wouldn't say in front of a group of women. Fat people get to make fat jokes. Country folks get to mock rednecks. I remember an appellate case in which Asian members of a band were fighting to own the name "The Slants." Naturally, that has a different context when an Asian person is using it.

 

And one last point, and I will leave this to others.
I am not a hypocrite on this. When DeSean Jackson said what he said about Jews, even though that was far more overt and dangerous than this, once he apologized and seemed sincere in his promise to learn more on the subject of why this was hateful, I was good. As was most everyone else.
I didn’t want him to lose his job, or have an internet mob destroy him. People deserve the ability and chance to fix their mistakes. If they are earnest in that, society is much better off that way. It encourages dialogue, and people seeing forgiveness coming from a group they may mistrust or have misgivings about lowers barriers instead of raising them.
Jmo.

 

Well then that's where we disagree. I don't think there is ever a use of the N-word that can be considered "acceptable".

How about simply being a feeling, caring human being? I've had this discussion before with black people and NEVER had an issue discussing it. As long as people are open and honest about communication and understand where the intent is, that's the important part. It has less to do with begin black, white, green, purple or polka dot and everything to do with being human.

I feel the same way about any word or symbol designed as a racial slur. Remember this kind of thing also cuts both ways. An extreme example, the swastika was long considered a Buddhist symbol of peace until the Nazis changed the perception around its meaning.

 

Can we stop trying to tell black people how they should feel about the use of the n-word? I’m sure there is more to the story, anyway. I’m guessing some of the players were upset and didn’t see it as the accident or the immediate signs of remorse that he claims.

 

If a word is considered so vile that it can only be represented by one letter, and anyone from certain races who use it will be deprived of their livelihood, let’s just get rid of this word from our language. We need to relegate this word to the dustbin of history, but that will only happen if those who have the right to use it freely choose to not use it.

Language in our culture has become increasingly coarse. It would be nice if we all treated each other decently.

It’s interesting that South Africa has its own equivalent word. It is illegal to utter that word in public, and people have been prosecuted for using it. Even blacks been prosecuted. They take eliminating the word from the language very seriously.

 

Nobody said this is racism (except the people claiming it's racist that Black people can say the n-word, while white people can't). But he said the n-word loudly in a meeting at the place of his employment. That sort of error will cost you your job. He also wasn't fired. He resigned.

 

You're welcome to have the discussion, but it's not your call to make.

We have the First Amendment, which prevents that sort of prosecution. And the word isn't going to be relegated to the dustbin of history because Black people stop using it. As far as I am concerned, Black people have every right to decide how they personally want to treat that word. And white people are better off staying out of it.

 

Yes, it is. I also support affirmative action. I don't consider that to be racist either.

 

I’m more interested in how someone manages to accidentally read something aloud.

That seems like an odd problem to run into unless you really struggle with reading or have some sort of cognition issue.

Stated differently, the explanation here doesn’t make a ton of sense because I’m struggling to picture how what supposedly occurred could have possibly happened.

 

I've never used that word in my life, but I have been called it. And it wasn't by a Jew in an endearing way. Unsurprisingly, bigots don't cease using slurs because we do.

Bigoted white people will use the word regardless of whether Black people do. Meanwhile, the vast, vast majority of us manage to go through life without using that word in our workplace.

 

The difference is the K word is not (as far as I know correct me if I’m wrong) been taken over by the Jewish community and repurposed as a badge of honor to be used only and exclusively by Jews. It was deemed an offensive word and largely extinguished. I’d venture many young people have never heard of it.

If the N word causes people to trigger and have immediate pain and suffering it shouldn’t be used, period. Obviously whites shouldn’t use it, but if a word is part of popular culture it will get used inappropriately, sometimes in a clumsy but non malicious way.

It seems to me some people like the status quo, as it shifts power away from white to blacks. While at some level that is understandable the net result is you will have good people caught up and alienated by it, and it will continue to be a wedge issue and ultimately hurts blacks more than it helps.

 

I don't suffer from the illusion that it's my call to make. I do think it should be a conscious choice for people not to use it. It's one of those words that's so vulgar in any usage that there should be no time that it's chosen to be used.

 

And yet, the bigoted young people sure know the word. If another Jewish persons wants to refer to himself using that word, that's his business. I'm not going to lecture him about it.

Yeah, it does, which is a big reason imo why white people are so bothered by it. I don't see it as hurting Black people. And I find, as a good person, it is easy to not get "caught up and alienated by it." I don't use the word.

 

I think the key focus needs to be the endgame. Is this just part of the evolution to the words eradication from society? If so, than the reclamation of certain words by certain groups makes sense to me.

But that needs to be the endgame in my opinion.

Thoughts?

 

Its reactions like this that create even more division.