Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Horford = Greatest NBA Gator?

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by tmape01, May 10, 2022.

  1. jeffphillips21

    jeffphillips21 GC Hall of Fame

    3,941
    1,053
    2,008
    Jun 20, 2009
    Vancouver
    There's a very good reason why we were able to recruit Kasey Hill, Chris Walker and Scottie Lewis...they weren't going to the NBA all along. We think we got lucky signing 5-star recruits, but the experts from NBA execs, agents, to shoe companies etc knew they didn't have it. That's why other teams didn't pay top dollar to bring them in. Yes Scottie had a slightly different situation given his sponsor family, but if those 3 were really any good, they would have already made the NBA, regardless of White.

    You may disagree with the above reasoning, but to think that White is the reason they're not in the NBA is absolutely ridiculous. Do you honestly believe a single coach has that much impact? It's because they were undersized, can't make a shot, or some other reason. If they had what it takes they'd be in the league. What you're saying is that all those UK players make it to the NBA is because of what a great coach Cal is. That's the flip-side argument. And we all know that's a ridiculous argument, but somehow some believe that White is the reason these guys aren't in the league.
     
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2022
    • Like Like x 2
  2. jeffphillips21

    jeffphillips21 GC Hall of Fame

    3,941
    1,053
    2,008
    Jun 20, 2009
    Vancouver
    This. Is the reason he's not in the league. Very little if anything to do with Coach White.
     
  3. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

    9,495
    1,610
    2,453
    Apr 3, 2007
    I agree. Coaches are not expected to develop extremely talented kids.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  4. jeffphillips21

    jeffphillips21 GC Hall of Fame

    3,941
    1,053
    2,008
    Jun 20, 2009
    Vancouver
    the problem is not everyone responds to coaching, or is uncoachable... or they just don't have it
     
  5. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

    10,962
    1,889
    3,128
    Jan 5, 2010
    Maine
    I remember when we talked about Al in the Horford thread.

    I hope he balls out tomorrow. 12/10/5.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  6. INGATORSWETRUST

    INGATORSWETRUST GC Hall of Fame

    16,760
    1,083
    1,328
    Apr 8, 2007
    Florida
    Coaches can make a difference if (1) they are more effective in identifying HS talent that can transition to the next level and (2) they can identify players that can be effective playing in their specific scheme/system.
     
  7. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

    9,495
    1,610
    2,453
    Apr 3, 2007
    That’s certainly true, but Kasey’s best year was as a freshman. He shooting got worse over his college career, and he never learned to play the game using multiple gears. He was never a true point guard. I am not saying that this was White’s fault, but I can tell you that White was terrible at developing players in his 7 years at UF.
     
  8. gatortenor37

    gatortenor37 GC Hall of Fame

    2,110
    1,745
    2,023
    Jan 29, 2016
    Arkansas
    I think the GSW have figured out this Celtic team. I was hopeful Horford would get his ring, but it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen this year. Too bad :(
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. your_perfect_enemy

    your_perfect_enemy GC Hall of Fame

    5,533
    386
    448
    Apr 7, 2010
    • Like Like x 1
  10. ripple12

    ripple12 Recruit

    2
    1
    63
    Jan 2, 2022
    think when it is all said and done dorian finney smith might win more chips. Dallas have great upside and Doncic is leader for mvp race this year on sportsbetting3. com and DFS fits with him perfectly and great contract. if they stay together he could win 3+
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2022
    • Like Like x 1
  11. jeffphillips21

    jeffphillips21 GC Hall of Fame

    3,941
    1,053
    2,008
    Jun 20, 2009
    Vancouver
    big if with Doncic, he's farrrr too ball dominant. he needs to involve his team more, not just on bailout passes
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

    9,495
    1,610
    2,453
    Apr 3, 2007
    What in tarnation? We are in total agreement. When's the last time someone that ball dominant (ball hog) won an NBA title?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  13. jeffphillips21

    jeffphillips21 GC Hall of Fame

    3,941
    1,053
    2,008
    Jun 20, 2009
    Vancouver
    Haha, imagine that. He's too similar to a long list of PGs before him that try to take on an entire defense by themselves, while their teammates watch
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

    17,553
    2,782
    1,618
    Apr 3, 2007
    This picture makes me happy

     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. SJB612

    SJB612 GC Hall of Fame

    5,226
    1,258
    2,088
    Apr 12, 2007
    Horford gets 2 year extension for $20 mil. Will play until he is 39, if he holds up. Good for Al.

    Horford, Celtics agree to 2-year, $20M extension

    Interesting stat in the article - Al is shooting 49% from 3 pt land this year, third among active centers. Never would have thought I would see that stat in basketball at any level ever. My, how things have changed.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  16. insuragator

    insuragator VIP Member

    18,584
    515
    643
    Apr 3, 2007
    Bradley Beal with scoring and Jason Williams with passing!!!