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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. QGator2414

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    Hope you feel better quickly!
     
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  2. VAg8r1

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    This may be informative. Personally, I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other regarding the vaccine for children under the age of five. As far as school age children are concerned if I was the parent of a school age child I would follow the advice of my child's pediatrician.
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    Comparing COVID-19 Vaccines for Young Children | University of Utah Health
     
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  3. gator95

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    do you see the asterisk down there in your chart? That's why the vaccine isn't needed in children. The vaccine/placebo group showed no difference. So unless your child has underlying conditions, zero reason to get them vaccinated.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    The efficacy comparison is confusing. Pfizer has better numbers but at a much lower dosage.
     
  5. tilly

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    Interesting article on CNN's front page written by a doctor who says she wont be masking her kids this year and recommended only high risk households do so.

    Glad to hear her say this, but is this even still a thing anywhere?
     
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  6. g8trjax

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    California and New York for sure!
     
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  7. l_boy

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    Yeah masking kids at this point is kind of ridiculous from a practical perspective.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    It is not just practical. They don’t do anything. Unless you are going to N95 kids and teachers. There is no benefit. Yet there is the damage of removing facial expressions from the developmental process.

    Masking kids is right up there with the most damaging things done in Public Health in generations (shutting them out was worse and the vaccine only strategy is in the discussion). Those three things alone probably take the top 3 of most damaging public policy in my lifetime. At the end of the day we have to learn from the disaster public health has been through Covid.
     
  9. QGator2414

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    June 13 is when Boston finally removed the mandate from schools and busses. Crazy!!!

    The people in charge of places like this are a combination of idiots and authoritarians.
     
  10. duchen

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    The first three or four days tend to be to roughest. The throat Irritation is annoying. I lost my voice in days 2 and 3 and then got it back Day 4. Just relax. Watch a great old Gator game you recorded it enjoy some music
     
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  11. duchen

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    I wore an N95 mask whole I traveled. 845 until 4. Only took it off for a few seconds to show my face to the TSA and to sip water or coffee with it on. Only had it up during sips. 2 days later, symptoms started. Very hard to wear a mask 7 hours straight without taking it off for a very short time. And. Even then, air still passes around the sides of the mask or one would suffocate. Still they probably help with viral load.
     
  12. jeffbrig

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    Day 3, still plodding along. Burned through a box of tissues overnight. Heavy nasal congestion is still the worst symptom. After a bad night's sleep, I took a 90 minute nap before lunch, and nearly three hours late afternoon. And I'm someone that never naps.

    My wife ran to Target today to try to get me some Nyquil. The cold and flu aisle was 95% bare shelves! The pharmacist pointed out that with at home tests, a run on otc meds is about the best indicator of local spikes.
     
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  13. flgator2

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    9-Year-Old Dies Two Weeks After Taking COVID-19 Vaccine: VAERS (theepochtimes.com)

    9-Year-Old Dies Two Weeks After Taking COVID-19 Vaccine: VAERS

    The most recent VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) data shows that a 9-year-old died in California two weeks after getting one dose of a Pfizer-BioNTech jab.

    The female child had no listed preexisting conditions and was not hospitalized.

    She experienced 2-3 days of “stomach ache, sore throat and chest pain; two weeks after receiving the vaccination,” the database states.


    CDC Exaggerated COVID’s Threat to Children
    On June 23, The director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) falsely said that COVID-19 has been one of the five top causes of death for children since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic.

    In addition, in March, the CDC removed tens of thousands of deaths linked to COVID-19, including nearly a quarter of deaths it had listed in those under 18 years old.
     
  14. QGator2414

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    You had the best chance at protection. And agree that it is very hard to do. I think the viral load angle was made up by the overly pro mask groups as I just do not think that matters all that much with how this disease transmits.

    They had two years they could have run solid large RCTs to prove that masks work. And they never did. They ran lab simulated stuff and never real world stuff. Well...I would not be surprised if they did but the answers were not what they wanted/they did not want to find the answer as they knew what it would show (opinion of mine).

    End of the day. An N95 will provide some protection. The rest is/was just theater.
     
  15. Gatorrick22

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    I would imagine that all of the mandates to mask-up would be gone by now. But some people might mask-up because they can't even afford to catch a cold... much less a flu or Covid-19. I know people that are just barely making ends meet and they cannot afford to get sick in this hyper-inflationary economy.
     
  16. gator95

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    Good OpEd in LATimes talking about the "covid deaths".

    I don’t believe LA County’s COVID death totals. Here’s why – Daily News

    In fact, “due to” is not a phrase that appears in the cited guidelines established by the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists, which is a non-governmental, nonprofit organization. The guidelines document, dated Dec. 22, 2021, is titled “Interim Guidance for Public Health Surveillance Programs for Classification of COVID-19-associated Deaths among COVID-19 Cases.”



    “Associated” deaths, according to the CSTE, include deaths from any cause as long as there is some connection to COVID, even if it’s just a positive PCR test or “epidemiologic linkage” with “clinical criteria,” such as fatigue and a runny nose.
     
  17. philnotfil

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    As of today, August 4th, the number of deaths being reported for July 26th is 30.
     
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  18. gator95

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    How many of these "covid deaths" were actually from Covid? Until we know that those numbers aren't very useful. At least now we know 60-90% of people hospitalized "with covid" aren't in the hospital because of covid. Good distinction to note.
     
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    Middle age person dies while having covid. " did they die with covid or from covid?"

    Raging alcoholic dies a month after getting a vaccine. " Another death from the jab!"
    :D
     
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  20. gator95

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    Exactly. Until we have reliable data, using data that isn't correct is worse than no data at all.
     
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