Nobody's gotten to the bottom of 9/11

DB, who leapt in loafers and without a backup chute in a raging storm and frigid air and hurtling along at 150 MPH, died before he hit the ground. I bet he wasn't even able to open his chute. There are a group of folks around the country who are obsessed with knowing who he was. Clearly - to me - it was Oswald's brother, and I just can't understand why those folks haven't gone down that trail. I think I know where his body landed, too, but only a sizable deposit will loosen my lips.

 

We're not even talking about the same thing. I'm not talking about paying Bin Laden anything or giving him "tribute." It's been years now and I'm not going back to research this or find the names, but there were two Saudi operatives who entered this country, one I think who entered via California, and were financed or taken care of by a Saudi official or officials. And I recall that there was a problem tracking these operatives because the CIA and the FBI were not sharing information with each other. But it was through these operatives that the Saudis were complicit in 9/11, by taking care of the hijackers or whatever. That's what Bush wanted to "classify," as you put it. That's the bare bones as I recall it. I'm not going to go back into that mess for details after all these years. "Who cares?"

 

Its possible, but there were dozens of copy cat hijackers and they all survived their jumps, some in worse conditions too

 

I'd be willing to bet my farm* that they were experienced jumpers (DB was not) and jumped in different conditions. BUT, I'm unaware of any such jumps from airliners.

* I have no actual farm.

 

Some were, but one of the people who copycatted had to be shown how to put on a parachute and he lived

 

All I know is that Bush is probably one of the worst presidents in US history. Got us into two wars and by the end of his terms, put us into the worst economic downturn since the great depression.

 

Bush was a useful idiot, the victim of a neocon coup led by Cheney, who literally chose himself to be Bush's VP.

 

Considering his involvement with the Saudi’s (who happen to be bankrolling this golf tour with State $$$), and the fact Trump is hosting two events for the Saudi’s, I’m guessing his “we don’t really know what happened” is mostly intended as a deflection away from the fact that 15 of the 19 men were Saudi nationals.

I assume Trump was at least asked a question and didn’t randomly volunteer this?

 

How long before the Q crazies start saying it was the radical communist democrats who did it?

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/18/9/1...hosting-saudi-funded-liv-golf-tournament.html

Families and survivors of the 9/11 terrorist attacks criticized former President Donald Trump for hosting an upcoming tournament for the Saudi-funded LIV golf league at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, N.J.

The group 9/11 Justice, in a letter dated Sunday, expressed “deep pain and anger” over Trump’s decision to host the tournament. The letter also pointed to a number of moments in which the former president assigned blame to Saudi Arabia for the attacks, which killed 2,977 people in 2001.

It is incomprehensible to us, Mr. Trump, that a former president of the United States would cast our loved ones aside for personal financial gain,” the group wrote.

Fifteen of the 19 attackers on 9/11 were Saudi citizens, and terrorist mastermind Osama Bin Laden was born in the country. The Saudi government has repeatedly denied that it was involved in the attacks.

 

Trump has blamed the Saudi's for 9/11 on a number of occasions. But, as we well know, he LIES whenever it suits his financial or political interests.

 

Massimo Mazzucco has a YouTube video where he debunks the debunkers. Check it out. You might find it interesting. Also, how did Jane Standley, a TV reporter for BBC, state while on the air that bldg 7 fell 20 minutes BEFORE it fell?

 

The only videos of the supposed attackers getting on a plane was two of them getting on a plane in I think it was Maine. Shouldn't there be videos of them in the airports they supposedly flew out of?

 

Because you can't "debunk" the information that was debunked without twisting things around. I'm not close minded enough to not check it out but again, every claim was thin sliced and addressed in detail with multiple sources. For me as soon as someone brings up something like WTC7 then I know where they stand because the "untouched" myth has been addressed multiple times yet it still stands as a perpetual myth. They aren't interested in discussion.

Edit: I just did a quick search about the BBC news report and realized it was about WTC7. I've seen this issue and again, it was addressed on the debunking site as well as several other sites that still exist. What's more logical? That a reporting error was made during a confusing and chaotic time or there was some scripted scenario that was reported too early? Ahh yes let's take down buildings 1,2 and let's throw in 7 for good measure but let's do it even though it was "untouched."

No disrespect. It probably sounds snarky in text but I don't mean to sound that way towards you.

Error in BBC reporting doesn’t mean 9/11 was scripted - Full Fact

11 September 2001: The conspiracy theories still spreading after 20 years

 

The BBC thing is pretty silly if you work it backwards. What are the options?

9/11 was a massive government conspiracy and they included news reporters in? They sent out scripts early but had the news reporters sit on it? Except this one for the BBC messed up? And if so, why would they need to send out scripts if the reporters could just report on the actual events unfolding. What benefits do a reporter have for being involved in this conspiracy?

 

I feel like most conspiracy theories come up sorely lacking when asking the question: To what end?

There is almost always tons of mental gymnastics needed to answer why these things were done to begin with.

 

That and the old Shakespear quote "two may keep counsel, if putting one away." 100s of people were involved in pulling off a 9/11 conspiracy and not one has spilled the beans?

 

Video of trump regarding 9/11

 

Correct. We basically covered up the complicity of high Saudi officials and their intelligence service. Sen. Bob Graham, the head of Senate Intelligence, was obsessed. Dick Cheney threatened to have him prosecuted. He wanted the footnote in the NIE declassified, which was more on Iraq. He even wrote a "fictional" book about a "Kingdom".

All you say is true

 

Exactly, which is why conspiracy theories never really make sense. They defy human nature. The great stuff for fiction but lack any practical application to reality. Except of course Opus Dei