Opinion | What Happened When 7 Trump Voters and 6 Biden Voters Tried to Find Common Ground It just kills me how people are so off the rails. The left is as bad as the right. People seem to get stuck in their media and social media echo chambers and become angry to the point you can’t even have an intelligent conversation. People consume these events on TV and social media and extrapolate them as the reality of everyday life.
I'm not sure a Luntz focus group is scientific either. Anyways, all reality is simulated, haven't you read Simulacra and Simulation? The map precedes the territory.
Fascinating and depressing. Sean made the most sense: 70% of us are in the middle, but the other 30% cause the most rancor.
Yeah I found his comment to be the most insightful “I think all of us would probably agree on 70 percent of the things that happen in our daily lives. Right? It’s the 15 percent on the right-hand side and the 15 percent on the left-hand side that make everybody crazy. Whether it’s abortion or gun rights, all of us want health care, good jobs, some type of safety net if stuff goes wrong. But that’s not where the money is made. It’s made in the fringes, where people can divide us. And they stir it up so that people — it inflames passions, and it brings people to boiling points. I don’t know if that’s the answer. I’m sorry.” As to the question “is this a racist country” all or all but one democrat said yes. If we are talking in the present tense, I would say overall no, but recognizing racism does still exist and we certainly have a racist past.
The American system of government is designed to check broadly held public sentiment, and is suspicious of if not hostile to democratic impulses. The system is working as intended.
People are always going on about how the middle who just want to get things done and solve problems isn't represented, maybe that's a feature not a bug of the American system.
I don't think we're racist either, but we can be, including me, racially insensitive, which is to some extent understandable given our different life experiences. Sherrie expressed a view I've posted about on here a couple of times, namely, the Trump phenomenon has had a very strong racial component to it since he came on the scene immediately after the Obama presidency. No, I'm not saying all Trump supporters are racists, but I am saying racists by and large support him. And yes, I know some who identify as liberals who are racist. They bug me the most because they're hypocrites.
I would say overall yes. If 70% of us are in the middle, they need to start voting consistently. Because this country doesn't vote like 70% are in the middle, unless "the middle" covers far more ideological ground than I think it does.
The new “Forward” party attempting to go for those in the middle. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...-with-groups-led-by-former-gop-officials/amp/
I see that 70% number throw out a lot and it’s bill. Trump has an approval rating hovering in the mid to high 30s all by himself. You can’t be that moderate and approve of trump. And I’d say the number of loons on the left is at least somewhat comparable. The American swing voter is a much more rare and endangered species than people think.
If the middle is deemed as being everybody who isn't a Democratic Socialist/Communist or a hardcore Trumper, yeah, it could be closer to 70%. But that 70% isn't a real voting bloc. Tilly and I would fit into that voting bloc, and as much as I like Tilly, we're rarely going to vote the same way.
This is a ridiculous and misleading post. 70% of Republicans continue to say that Trump won the election. Elected Republicans are doing their best to destroy our democracy while at the same time trying to divide the country in half with their bullshit anti-woke crap. DeSantis looks like the worst of the bunch. Then we have a sliver of left-wing extremists. And even then, what do those extremists want? It seems like in most cases it's to help people and to keep the world from dying from climate change.
I don’t think you got my point, and ironically unwittingly proved it. My point is the democrats are just as bad as living in their bubble of fantasyland victimhood as republicans are. The difference is I think the Republican bubble is more toxic and harmful. You have almost all of the Democrats saying the US is a racist nation, which is essentially another way of saying all or most whites are racist (they aren’t saying it due to black or Hispanic racism). Yet you reply with a scathing screed about how one side, the other side, is terrible.
Uh no, that's not what it means. But continue making assumptions to justify coming to the conclusions you want. Systemic racism is still a fact in this country. Study after study proves it. Invidious racial discrimination still is infecting our major institutions and harming people, particularly Black people. Until we rectify that, we are a racist nation.
