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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. pkaib01

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  2. duchen

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    The extreme right doesn’t see themselves as the extreme right. They see themselves as the voices of reason and everyone elSe, like Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney, as liberals or RINOS.
     
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    You are far left and you are trying to call out other people? That’s funny.
     
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    Thanks. The post you responded to was one of the more lowly things I've read on here of late. Same poster wrote some nasty message about choice advocates in the Gaetz thread. Disappointing
     
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  5. flgator2

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    Thank you for finally recognizing me as the voice of reasoning, God, it took you awhile
     
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  6. duchen

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    . Classic!
     
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  7. Gatorrick22

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    I agree with this sentiment about the Covid-19 and the "vaccines" made for it... She is 100% right about it.




     
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  8. flgator2

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    It doesn't take someone on the extreme right to see that when it's that obvious. You know it's true when the extreme left defends them
     
  9. pkaib01

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    Ugh.

     
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  10. VAg8r1

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    So you're saying that Liz Cheney who has one of the most conservative voting records among all members of the House is a liberal or RINO? I guess that's true when your sole criteria is whether one supports the former president.
    Although these links are over a year ago they say it all about the current state of the Republican Party, a party in which loyalty to the former president takes precedent over a conservative philosophy.
    Liz Cheney's likely replacement has much lower ratings from conservative groups
    Cheney was more loyal to Trump’s agenda than Stefanik was. But Trump only cares about loyalty to him.
    Edit: While "Off-topic" insofar as the subject of this thread is concerned, it was a direct response to another post within the tread.
     
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  11. l_boy

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    This is very confusing. It seems to say the vaccination is no less effective at preventing initial severe disease but modestly worse at preventing reinfection. In my mind that would say natural immunity is less effective against BA 5


    We observed no evidence of reduced vaccine effectiveness for the primary complete vaccination (OR=1.07, CI95%:0.93-1.23) or booster dose vaccination (OR=0.96, CI95%:0.84-1.09) against BA.5 infection compared with BA.2. The protection against reinfection was inferior in BA.5 cases when compared with BA.2 (OR=1.44; CI95%:1.30-1.60). Among those infected with BA.5, booster vaccination was associated with 77% and 88% of reduction in risk of COVID-19 hospitalization and death, respectively, while higher risk reduction was found for BA.2 cases, with 93% and 94%, respectively. Interpretation This study shows that the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron BA.5 lineage is associated with higher odds of reinfection compared with Omicron BA.2, regardless of the vaccination status. Although less effective compared with BA.2, COVID-19 booster vaccination still offers substantial protection against severe outcomes following BA.5 infection.
     
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  12. studegator

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    How does one know which covid varient they are infected with?
     
  13. pkaib01

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    It's tough for the average Joe to tell. Sometimes a specific variant can be identified by a PCR test but otherwise it would have to can be sent out for genetic testing, much like the CDC.

    You can make an educated guess by the symptoms and the CDC-measured strain prevalence in your area. If BA.5 is 99% dominant in your area, you can be confident you have BA.5. The Delta/Omicron overlap period had the most uncertainty.

    Since the treatments are broadly the same for the current in-the-wild variants, identification of the strain is mostly out of curiosity.
     
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  14. ncargat1

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    So far, the primary treatment options remain the same independent of variant. But, the average person will not know what strain they are infected with. If you go and have a PCR test, some percentage of those tests samples will be requested by local health departments for genetic typing, ie figure out what variant that sample was infected with. Most modern hospitals also have that capability if they have even a half-arsed decently well equiped infectious disease unit.
     
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    You most likely don’t, unless hospitalized with more severe symptoms.

    Through surveillance of the state PCR tests and using statistical sampling the public health people can track which variant is circulating.
     
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    Most don’t. But can likely have a good assumption based on when they had Covid and which variant was dominant in their community.
     
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    New York's COVID hospitalization rate has soared to a five-month high, fueled by a New York City admission rate unseen since mid-February and a Long Island streak that has topped state charts daily for the last month at least, according to Gov. Kathy Hochul's latest virus update. And these aren't all mild cases, either.

    Statewide, the hospitalization rate per 100,000 skyrocketed 50% between this time in June and now, with nearly 2,800 COVID patients admitted as of Wednesday. New York City's number has boomed 70% in the same time period, while the number of COVID patients in intensive care units across the five boroughs grew by nearly two-fold.


    COVID Cases USA: NYC Hospitalizations, BA5 Variant Infections Boom – NBC New York
     
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  18. buckeyegator

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    meanwhile death rate is down to 1.136%
     
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  19. gator95

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    What's great is most people aren't listening to the CDC and vaxxing their young kids. Especially since there is no data backing up the reason to vax young kids. Very happy people didn't listen to anyone on this forum.

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  20. QGator2414

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    It is crazy. It has to be so frustrating as a pediatrician out there having to deal with these idiots in public health peddling bad medicine. Even their academy says to follow what these authoritarians are pushing. But it is clear the doctors on the front lines have stopped listening to these people.

    I feel for the kids whose parents are still caught in the propaganda. That said…it is not many anymore. And that is a good thing like you said.