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Polio/Vaccine Hesitancy?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Jul 21, 2022.

  1. danmanne65

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    I think there is a tendency to treat the Jewish people as a monolithic block. They aren’t. I checked with a friend who happens to be a New York Jew. His opinion is there are as many types of Jews as there are xtians their weird ones tend to keep it to themselves.
     
  2. ncargat1

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    First, there is no deep thought about vaccine hesitancy. It is an orchestrated movement, latched onto by one political group, to push propaganda and manipulate the ignorant in our country. It really isn't that deep.

    Next, you most certainly do not "fear" vaccine hesitancy after openly lobbying for it.

    Finally, you are, at long last, right about something. The anti-vax movement that you and the rest of the Republican infrastructure has promoted and used for political gain is definitely leading to increase disease instances of endemic viruses that should have been wiped out long ago.

    I hope you and your ilk enjoy presiding over the public health crisis that you have all worked at unending lengths to create. Bravo, you all should be very proud of yourselves by out-ignoranting what used to be the brianless purview of the ultra-left.
     
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  3. gatordavisl

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    You have made this all too apparent.
     
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  4. gatordavisl

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    Excellent points. The weirdly vocal part is attributable to attention-seeking narcissism.
     
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  5. docspor

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  6. QGator2414

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    You and those who supported coercion of the Covid shots are the ones who have caused generational damage. In the process you have allowed the ant vax crowd to gain great traction. Outside of shutting kids out of school it is one of the worst public health decisions of our lifetimes.
     
  7. ajoseph

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    I'd say it exactly the opposite. You, who rely on internet science, have attacked the integrity of public health professionals who stake their entire career in protecting the public at large, and have done this so maliciously and relentlessly, that you have convinced many that all vaccines are evil. Your malicious, political driven attacks have caused this health crisis.
     
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  8. QGator2414

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    I have not done that at all. The propaganda by the few authoritarians has you so tunnel visioned you have a delusional view of what I have said and believe.

    There is a reason so few are getting their kids the Covid shot now. And it is because science says they don’t need it. Yet the cdc is trying to peddle it on kids. You keep boosting with and archaic shot. Big pharma thanks you. But we need to stop peddling bad medicine as public policy.
     
  10. gatorchamps960608

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    That's all you have done. You have repeatedly quoted YT quacks to make your backwoods arguments. Everyone is on to your nonsense now.
     
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  11. ajoseph

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    You were peddling your anti-vax routine since the inception of the vaccine well before the variants mutated for their survival.

    To be sure, there’s a reason more and more people refuse to be vaccinated as recommended. That reason is the politically driven mob’s quest to discredit the public officials who recommend vaccines. You know, like the polio vaccine, amongst others.
     
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  12. Nawlens Gator

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    People I know have grown to distrust our current leaders and are tired of govt mandates surrounding Covid which they consider overreach. Some I know have taken their children out of public schools in reaction to the mandates and are now home schooling them. Seems to me, people care most about freedom of choice.
     
  13. demosthenes

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    *sigh*

    Again, you do not know more than the eminently qualified Dr. Anthony Fauci, who for almost 4 decades has been our country’s top epidemiologist based on merit and not politics, yet you play internet expert based on your YT videos and right-wing radio talking points. It’s embarrassing for our country and human advancement that such a large percentage of our population share this anti-science view with you.
     
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  15. Gatorrick22

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    Lol at these naive people that think these experimental mRNA jabs are anything like traditional vaccines... No one should ever conflate the two. The traditional vaccines throughout history has ever been what's in thee clot-shots.

    In traditional vaccines they are made of a near dead version, or a very weak version of said disease, injected into a person's body and their natural immune system makes it's own defense for it. That is NOTHING LIKE THE COT-SHOT.

    Again.. traditional vaccines are not the same thing as these new covid-19 clot-shots.

    The Polio vaccine is a traditional vaccine... not at all the same as the covid-19 clot shots.
     
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  16. BLING

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    So, what you are saying is mRNA is not the same as an attenuated or live virus based vaccine. Or, the mRNA is different, if you will, from traditional vaccines. I’ve often heard very intelligent people suggest things that are not the same, are in fact different. Like a peach vs. a nectarine. Some people think they are the same. But no, they are clearly two different and unique fruits.
     
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  17. altalias

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    It makes perfect sense to me. Before Covid they trusted the government but when they saw what they considered an experimental vaccine pushed on the public they questioned not only Covid but all vaccines
    I got the vaccine. But my daughter does medical research. I asked a lot of questions about the speed of procurement and the nature of the mRNA vaccine. I'm not sure how I would have reacted without the input of someone who is an expert who I know has my beat interests at heart and I trust.
     
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  18. QGator2414

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    Most people will still get vaccines that have good long track records. But there are many who will be hesitant now on good vaccines because we pushed a new drug in damaging way. Instead of focusing on the high risk groups. We went everyone regardless of risk must take it. On top of that the public health officials and leaders sold it as you would not get Covid (absolutely STUPID). And here we are with a drug that does not stop people from getting Covid or spreading it and needing an updated version. But we still will not let Djokovic (twice infected) come into our country because he will not take a shot designed for the ancestral strain.

    We tell people to mask and social distance as if it works. We do not run RCT (we are over two years in now) to prove it because they know the answer.

    I am sure your daughter understands how idiotic these policies are!
     
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  19. demosthenes

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    lol, Djokovic? Really? Dude doesn’t even have a green card, much less a citizen of this country. He knowingly made his choice and lied on official forms in another country and you want to use him as an example of us doing something wrong? lol
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    Yes Djokovic who is not allowed into our country because we have an idiotic Covid Policy that is the antithesis of following science!