Christian Nationalism

That too. It pretty much showed strongman over country. In fact, a lot’s seared into mine.

 

Or the right. Big difference is those are political people operating in the political realm in political organizations. For the most part they work within political systems and voters sort it out. They don’t however require obedience to the political/religious creed in order to save their eternal soul. I’m happy to have moral people with good integrity work within the govt. or within the parties but organized religion should stop at the statehouse doorstep.

 

And these vermin call themselves "patriots" smdh

 

Sorry. Wasnt aimed at you per se. Just the overall view that permiates these threads

 

These people do not represent or line up with my political views. And as I mentioned in a previous post, I think they focus way too much on earthly kingdoms. I do believe, however, that they have a right to their political views just like all of us do. Everybody has a worldview. When people vote they almost always vote in accordance with their worldview. When people vote, they are seeking to impose their views on the population as a whole. That’s what voting does. Whether right wing or left wing or middle of the road, when you vote you were seeking to force your views onto other people by having the majority.

I’m not sure what you meant by the last sentence: organized religion stopping at the statehouse steps. If you mean not having an official state religion that runs the country, then I agree with you wholeheartedly. If you mean religious people should not take part in government, an idea I have heard before, then that would be discriminating against a certain group of people while allowing every other group to take part in government.

 

Really all you have to do is line up the behavior of many so called Christians vs the teachings of Christ as articulated in the Bible. It is pretty night and day.

 

Except the viewpoint I’m trying to “impose” on you is to have your own and we both enjoy the same freedoms, down the line.

I am all for you restricting yourself via every religious doctrine you can imagine. But leave me be.

 

Vice News? Yeah, started/run by Canadian "journalists"? Lol... yeah, I believe what they have to say about Christians and their faux catchy description of people that go to Churches.

I believe Comedy Central more than these inventors of a new indignation...

More divide and conquer the masses. All part of the plan.

Yes they do not like the Bushevik Loving Marxists...

And they do NOT trust the American National Terrorist Instigating Federal Agency...

 

Almost every law restricts someone from doing something. Does your view of just leave them be apply to the guns they own?

 

Secular people don’t argue against laws on general principle. I’m sure you can find an anarchist to have these useless philosophical debates, they are spread throughout belief systems.

Unless you’re going to put in overtime to go Full Doing Too Much to make open carry Biblical canon, then gun laws are not imposing religious dogma.

But I have indeed learned just this week that building codes are straight from Big G, so let’s see how this goes.

 

Its not so simple, my friend, some denominations believe in lay interpretation of scripture. I think I pretty much summed it up when I posted earlier that ALL Christians don't line up with the bible....and ALL Christians are sinners.

 

Do you think the teachings of Jesus are primarily about discussing and stopping inappropriate and immoral behaviors?

Do think that the teachings of Jesus were meant to be laws to be codified and enforced by the government?

 

Well, that and their kindness towards obviously stupid and inept folks. See, they are noble and not mean spirited. No different than eliminating a less-than-ideal infant because it gets in the way of the mother's happiness. Pure nobility.


Too bad you are obviously too stupid and inept (purely sarcasm) to recognize their superiority.

Or as Colonel Nathan Jessup once eloquently said, "You can't handle the truth!"

 

This is correct.

It is just the concept of righteous anger. Jesus did some BIG overtures against the Pharisees and the institutionalized religiosity. Methinks, while we all get in our prospective mental cul-de-sacs and drive around and around, too many folks who are wanting to throw mud at "those folks" because they don't always do what they say they believe, want to be treated with child-level gloves (or easier) when it comes to "our folks' " disconnects. That is plainly called infantialism. And to just pull out the "What would Jesus Do?" mantra whenever it allows your version of the argument to prosper then it comes to another plain description: passive-aggressive petulance. Or to use another "great line", "I know you are, but what am I?"

This isn't a one-sided effort. Both sides play the "treat me nicely while I kick you meany in the shins" card. But since "one side" is using Jesus and the evolution/hijacking of his message to justify their smugness in this thread, taking off the child gloves IS the more correct response. This is adult world and not a sandbox.

 

They are out there, some in the halls of power.

 

Marjorie Taylor Greene to GOP: "We should be Christian nationalists"

Speaking at an event for young conservatives on Saturday, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican, argued that Republicans should embrace being "Christian nationalists."

The congresswoman appeared at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit this weekend in Tampa, Florida. Among the many things she discussed while onstage, she discussed the label of "Chrisitan nationalist" that critics have often given her. She argued that being a Christian nationalist is a positive thing, and urged the young conservatives in attendance to more prominently mix Christianity with politics.

"That's not a bad word," Greene said. "That's actually a good thing. There's nothing wrong with leading with your faith...If we do not live our lives and vote like we are nationalists—caring about our country, and putting our country first and wanting that to be the focus of our federal government—if we do not lead that way, then we will not be able to fix it."

 

I don't know if this was posted elsewhere. I originally only scanned the article and I have not read the whole thread. But I am listening to this podcast episode interview of Samuel Perry, author of The Flag and the Cross, and I think he is pretty careful and fair and describe something very real in our national politics.

How White Christian Nationalists Seek to Transform America - The New Yorker: Politics and More

 

Here's the book.

The Flag and the Cross

 

I think your questions are tangential to the discussion, or at least the points I was making. However, I will answer them anyway, because I think they’re appropriate questions.

Your first question is made a little difficult by inserting the word “primarily.” I have not gone through all of the teachings of Jesus and racked them up according to their categories. That would be a very useful exercise to do, and I thank you for the suggestion. If I have to answer off the top of my head, the primary focus of Jesus is proclaiming the kingdom of God. We do know from the Scriptures that many of Jesus’ teaching had to do with personal behavior.

The second question is a little too broad or vague for a simple answer. Much of what Jesus taught was aimed at the individual, if not most. I do not necessarily think that everything Jesus said should be codified into a law. On the other hand, if everybody followed the teachings of Jesus our country would be much better off.

The point I was making in earlier posts is that everyone has a basis for their beliefs. What I hear you saying is that atheists can push for policies in line with their beliefs, humanist can push for policies in line with their beliefs, secularists can push for policies in line with their beliefs, and worshipers of science can push policies in line with their beliefs. Every other group can push for policies in line with their beliefs. But Christians must never push for policies in line with their beliefs. I’m sorry, that’s just discrimination based upon religion which, as you know, is illegal.