Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Riding in a car is statistically safe for kids. But we can make it safer by buckling them up in proper car seats. But if you want to let your kids roam free around the car, go for it. Again, statistically, they will be fine, as was I, who was never buckled in as a child in our family's big conversion van. But if you want to be safer, buckle up. COVID is also statistically safe for kids under 12. But statistics show that it is even safer if everyone is vaccinated, including the kids.

By the way, UNICEF reports 17,200 deaths for people 20 and under, with 47% of them under the age of 10. This is worldwide. Wonder how many might have been saved had they been vaccinated?

 

Buckling up does not force your body to be put to work. The risk benefit makes it a should do. Not a good analogy at all…

 

How about a comparison with measles. Total mortality rate about 1.5%, but in the US, much lower. Only about 400 to 500 deaths a year with about 2 to 3 million cases reported a year. Your mortality rate of measles in countries with good medical care was about 1 in 10,000 or lower. Very good chance of survival. So why vaccinate? Because after vaccination, survival rates went up even more, to the point where we have had multiple years of no measles deaths. And last time I looked, the measles vaccine put your body to work.

 

MMR has decades of research and actually works.

 

This is true but give the mrna shots a chance. After the 27th EUA booster, we should have a good grip on 'em.

 

There are over 1,000 measles breakthrough cases a year. The difference is the measles virus does not mutate as fast as COVID. There are only 4 strains of the virus that cause the measles. That's over generations of the disease. Less than three years, and with COVID, we're already at Omicron. COVID mutates on a similar scale as the flu.

As for the MMR shot, it didn't have decades of research when it was introduced in 1963. But most people lined up to take it. And the current mRNA vaccine? It's based on the exact same science as all previous vaccines. Prior vaccines required years of isolating a virus with the proper mRNA to induce an immune response, but without the RNA to cause a person to get sick. The mRNA vaccine does exactly this, by just isolating the needed mRNA strand. Something scientists have been attempting to do for 3 decades, by the way.

 

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I believe hospitals have less people because everyone has had Covid. Manitoba has 1,400,000 people. Canada's numbers are far more likely to be accurate than the CDC's because national health insurance can match their vaccination registries more easily against hospital admissions and deaths. Figure 6 is quite telling if correct.

Provincial COVID-19 and Seasonal Influenza Surveillance | Health

 

Are finally starting to understand measles and Covid are different diseases?

 

Okay?

Are you one of the few who has not moved on?

It is clear that most are no longer going to get tested outside of a take home test.

 

Same thing happened to my doctor

 

Interesting data showing the threat of myocarditis to teen boys. Why the US didn't disclose these issues is beyond me. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 28 times more risk of myocarditis from the vaccine as opposed to getting myocarditis from covid itself. Someone needs to explain how it's an "emergency" for teens to get the shot. And people wonder why the CDC has lost so much public trust.

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Massive Nordic study finds risk of post-vaccination myo/pericarditis resulting in hospitalization in males 16-24 of 380/million (1/2600) post pfizer-moderna combination This is 28x higher than the 13.7/million rate they found post-covid

 

There are two types of risks. One is the risk of contracting something like myocarditis. The other is severity. As the CDC puts it, there is risk of myocarditis in young males with the vaccine, but almost all the cases require just a little rest and monitoring, before the condition goes away on its own. But if a child gets COVID, there is increased risk that the myocarditis can turn into the more severe MIS-C; a risk that does not exist with vaccination. And while MIS-C if caught early is treatable, if not caught early, it is a very serious risk for kids.

In weighing the risks/rewards for vaccinations, the CDC has decided the increased risk of myocarditis is preferable to the increase in more severe MIS-C cases that occur in a small portion of non-vaccinated kids who contract COVID. You have the right to disagree, of course, but just presenting the myocarditis risk without talking about the MIS-C risk is only presenting part of the story.

 

This is why I keep posting. We have charlatan's disregarding the data in front of them and try scare tactics to push people to vax their children. Healthy kids don't get sick from covid. But healthy boys sure get myocarditis at a 28 times more rate than from covid itself. Very happy less than 3% of parents have vaxxed their very young children. Zero reason to vax a child unless they have very serious underlying conditions.

 

How is posting studies that show there is no risk between vaccination and MISC-C, and the fact that MIS-C is a greater risk to a child than myocarditis disregarding data?

You are the one disregarding the data posted regarding MIS-C. This data is part of the equation, is it not, when it comes to determining the safety, efficacy, and recommendation to vaccinate kids. So why are you accusing me of something you are doing? Project much?

 

And drugs do guarantee to not stop myocarditis if you get Covid. And the drugs certainly do not stop you from getting Covid.

I understand you so bad want this drug to be something everyone needs. It is not…

 

The data shows yes, there is a higher risk of myocarditis if a kid gets COVID. The data also says the risk is higher if the kid is vaccinated. So why would the CDC promote the vaccine if the risk for myocarditis is higher with the vaccine?

Simple. Almost all cases of myocarditis, either from COVID or the vaccine are mild. But some of the myocarditis cases from COVID turn into a more serious condition called MIS-C. MIS-C has causes 70 pediatric deaths across the US since the start of COVID, and many more hospital visits.

With all the data out there, the CDC has decided that the individual risk of MIS-C from catching COVID is greater than the collective risk of additional myocarditis cases from the vaccine, which again, are almost all mild. You can disagree with the CDC recommendation all you want. But doing so and leaving out all the MIS-C data is making an ill-informed decision based on only one part of the story.

 

And the previous post is why that poster is a charlatan. Lying after seeing the data. Literally doesn't care. Complete joke.

 

Please explain how you completely ignoring the MIS-C risk is me lying after seeing the data? I've seen the data. So has the CDC, which has come to the conclusion that the small increase in MIS-C cases with COVID is more dangerous to kids than the larger increase of myocarditis cases with the vaccine, which are almost all mild.

Again, please explain how the bolded part is ignoring data, lying, or a complete joke.