Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Agree. Its just odd to use that stat when the country is so highy vaccinated.

Its like saying 100% of race car drivers killed were wearing a helmet so helmets must not work.

 

22.3% positivity rate in Hillsborough County. Not good. Will it top the peak of 27%. Has it already in real effect due to the ubiquity of home testing unreported results?

Very dangerous right now if you are older, have health issues, or just try to avoid playing the increasing odds of long Covid

 

When looking at data moving forward, please remember a lot of covid positive cases aren't being reported. My wife and I came back from a trip. A few days later we started feeling bad and both self tested, came up negative. The next day our symptoms were a little stronger, my wife tested positive, i tested negative. I made an appointment with urgent care, went in that afternoon, and urgent care confirmed the test results. They also told us that with the rapid test, if you test positive it's positive, however if you are negative you could still have it (lots of false negatives). We went home and started the protocol. I tested positive 2 days later and continued the protocol. I'm not sure urgent care would submit to the health department. I know plenty of people who test positive at home, stay inside for the protocol, and don't go to their doc or urgent care.
This situation exists in many states. We just had a friend in NY who was positive and didn't go in to the doc. Moral of the story is that covid is ALL OVER spreading wildly and the numbers coming out aren't accurate, IMO. (nothing to do with the vaccine discussion).
In short order, IMO, everyone will have gotten covid.

 

I have always acknowledged this. Even in my post when I say…”It should surprise no one”…that is an insinuation that the old are vaccinated by in large and the old are the ones dying by in large.

 

Well, it actually depends on how many people are actually vaccinated compared to how many aren't vaccinated and then you can compare how many people died of covid to see if there is a relation to those who are vaccinated versus those who aren't vaccinated. I show this many vaccinations given in the UK. Not sure if this is all vaccinations including children.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

 

There are so many who have just moved on and treat this like the flu or a cold now. The actual case numbers are crazy high with these new subvariants….

 

April and May mortality rates (column H of Table 4) are telling a different story. The mortality rate is double for those who are unvaccinated as compared to those who have had any vaccination.

Why do you think the mortality rates are showing something different than the death counts? Which is more useful (rates or counts) when determining the relative effectiveness of a treatment?

 

Yep, more people dying now than when we first got hit in the Spring of 2020. But far too many people have just come to accept the deaths and so they will continue.

 

A majority have been doing this for a while now. It began at the beginning of omicron. And once omicron the original ran it’s course…

 

if someone has no resistance, meaning no vaccine nor previous infection, i would bet the rates are higher as a percentage of population. what your data doesnt account for are how many of those deaths of the unvaccinated are reinfections. i would guess very few, but there is no way to tell by this data. recovery from previous covid infection can be considered a very strong deterrent to getting seriously ill, regardless of vaccine status

 

Study ties COVID booster to startling spike in excess deaths (wnd.com)

Authored by John Gibson, an economics professor at the University of Waikato in Hamilton, New Zealand, the study found there were 16 excess deaths per 100,000 booster doses in the country, amounting to more than 400 excess deaths, reported the website The Expose.

"The ratio of vaccine risk to benefits likely has swung more towards risk than during the original randomised trials, due to dose-dependent adverse events and to fixation of immune responses on a variant no longer circulating," he wrote.

 

"WND is an American far-right news and opinion website and online news aggregator. The website is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories and publishing fake news."
Garbage in = Garbage out. Perhaps that's why you're promoting an economic professor as an expert on medical matters.

 

Unfortunately death is a risk of life that is unavoidable. Most people accept this. Those that don't will likely have a tough life trying in vain to avoid it, but likely not through diet, exercise and healthy living which mostly eliminate death from all causes, especially covid.

 

Natural Immunity From Omicron Strong Against Virus Subvariants: Study | ZeroHedge

Protection ‘Strong’
“Protection of a previous infection against BA.4/BA.5 reinfection was modest when the previous infection involved a pre-Omicron variant, but strong when the previous infection involved the Omicron BA.1 or BA.2 subvariant,” the scientists wrote.

Natural immunity has long been found to be superior to the protection from COVID-19 vaccines, and the new study is no exception. Vaccines provide little protection against Omicron infection and perform worse against infection and severe illness from the BA.4 and BA. 5 subvariants, studies have shown.

Natural immunity also waned against BA.4 and BA.5, highlighting how the subvariants are better at evading protection, the Qatari researchers found.

The group has been studying natural immunity for years and recently discovered that the protection from prior infection against severe disease showed no signs of waning, regardless of what strain infected the person.

Among the listed limitations for the new study was the young population of Qatar, where just 9 percent of residents are 50 years of age or older. That means the findings “may not be generalizable to other countries where elderly citizens constitute a larger proportion of the total population,” researchers wrote.

 

Americans want excuses and the east way out.

Life is complex. But the vaccinate only crowd certainly struggles to find enjoyment more than those that navigate life understanding how amazing/blessed/unpredictable it is. Not always the case. But…

 

Hopefully the science deniers will finally acknowledge science and stop listening to a few authoritarians like fauci and jha (he is becoming as bad as fauci at a high rate)…

 

The CDC and others have been talking about the immunity build up of most folks whether vax or Omycron.
When you quote zerohedge, red state and other offshore entities, was InfoWars not available? At least keep the crazy made in Merica

 

In the hospitalized children data a substantial portion did not have prior underlying conditions.

I struggle with you saying they don’t “need”. The data is clear in that it reduces a low but non zero risk. You make it like a cost benefit and I’m not clear what the cost is in vaccinating them. It seems like at some level you still don’t trust vaccines.

 

You don’t need to make up stuff. It’s embarrassing