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Texas Republicans suing Biden for requiring abortions when life of the woman is threatened

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_lawyer, Jul 14, 2022.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Yeah, they're just ghouls.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/14/texas-sues-biden-emergency-abortion/
    Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) sued the Biden administration over federal rules that require abortions be provided in medical emergencies to save the life of the mother, even in states with near-total bans.

    “The Biden Administration seeks to transform every emergency room in the country into a walk-in abortion clinic,” Paxton said in a statement announcing the lawsuit on Thursday.

    The suit follows new guidance from the Department of Health and Human Services that asserted federal law requiring emergency medical treatment supersedes any state restrictions on abortion in cases where the pregnant patient’s life or health is at risk.
     
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  2. channingcrowderhungry

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    When you become so pro-life it turns into pro-death. The circle is complete.
     
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  3. ncargat1

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    Is this the Attorney General in Texas who should be in Federal Prison??
     
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  4. ursidman

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  5. dynogator

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    Should medical decisions in emergency situations be made by doctors, or by politicians? Paxton and the Right are just jealous of doctors because they, unlike politicians, have a code of ethics.
     
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  6. BossaGator

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    That state has some serious problems all around right now
     
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  7. GatorBen

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    I’ll have to read this - I haven’t had a chance to look at either the CMS guidance or Texas’s lawsuit.

    That said, I can at least see the argument that EMTALA is not a real great fit for dictating abortion availability in some circumstances (an EMTALA “emergency medical condition” seems like it’s potentially broader than the mother’s life being in danger, and I don’t know how many instances there would really be where an emergent abortion would be necessary “stabilizing care” at a facility that does not ordinarily offer abortions).
     
  8. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    I was wondering if it was just the life of the mother or a broader circumstance that Texas takes issue with. I'll look forward to your perspective.

    I would say regardless, Texas (and every state) has to take the steps to protect the life of a mother, otherwise there is nothing pro life about their position.
     
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  9. intimigator1

    intimigator1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Texans. Well...are really just ignorant dogs. Not all. Just the ones that require Republican staus.
     
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  10. BLING

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  11. gator_lawyer

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    It's a stunt. Paxton is a soulless hack. That's why he's doing this. I hope it blows up in his face.
     
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  12. GatorBen

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    I still need to read the Texas suit, but the CMS EMTALA guidance and HHS letter to providers are here:

    https://www.cms.gov/files/document/qso-22-22-hospitals.pdf

    https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/emergency-medical-care-letter-to-health-care-providers.pdf

    For some context, EMTALA was adopted to prevent “patient dumping” - hospitals transferring uninsured or Medicaid patients (because they are unable to pay) who present in the emergency department to charity hospitals without first stabilizing them.

    It’s the law that has previously faced criticism for “allowing uninsured patients to use the emergency room as their primary care physician” since the emergency room has a legal obligation to evaluate them before turning them away.

    This is an interesting issue - although it seems fairly clear that the original purpose of EMTALA was not to force hospitals to offer services that violate state law, there’s probably an interesting argument to be had at least with respect to abortions that are necessary to save the mother’s life.
     
  13. intimigator1

    intimigator1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Screw ignorance. Screw Stupidity. Screw Texas Republicans. That simple.
     
  14. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    Welcome back. Haven't seen ya in a while. Are you back in the Maldives?
     
  15. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Well look who's back. Mr. cheerful pants.
    ;)
     
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  16. intimigator1

    intimigator1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Am doing very well. Thank you for asking! :)
     
  17. tilly

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    Just busting your chops my friend.
    We've had our share of disagreement and agreement as I recall.
     
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  18. intimigator1

    intimigator1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Just made a major move to Florida for our kids sake. Louisville just had to much going on so my wife and i chose to sacrifice for their future. Very positive move.
     
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  19. intimigator1

    intimigator1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Respect my friend and yes we had some not so "eye to eye" moments at times but my break was much needed and my reality hss been regained of what is important..my wife and kids. Cliche? To some ye but for us a life changer. Respect my friend!
     
  20. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    Nothing cliche about putting your family first. They are everything. Its why I have never moved back to Florida. My kids were born here and my wife is from here. It would be selfish to have ever moved back. This is our home