Berkeley Prof tangles with Sen Hawley, calls him trans phobic

This one was a pretty weird situation. He was married to a woman for a number of years when he told her that he wanted to transition. She divorced him. Then (s)he married another woman after she transitioned. I don't claim to know how other people feel or should feel, which is why I don't judge and I don't insist on them being what I want them to be.

 

Careful. This will be interpreted as you talking about them behind their back.

 

Until reading this thread I never knew how many trannies were on here. Truly baffled at the back and forth on such a trivial’issue’

 

Part of the challenge here is that literally everyone knows what existing language means - and people who don’t conform to biological or societal norms know how those terms apply to them.

By way of example, the American Cancer Society’s website says that “prostate cancer is the most common cancer among men” - it’s a little interesting that we only seem to have these “child-bearing persons” versus “pregnant women” debates in the context of pregnancy. If that’s the route we really think we need to go, should the ACS’s website not also say something like “prostate cancer is the most common cancer amongst persons having prostates” (which likely conveys far less information to the population at large than would communicating that men happen to be the persons who have prostates)?

 

I know this is tongue in cheek, but with respect to heterosexuality, yes. lol.

 

He wants to be a parent, just like you did (assuming you have kids). Why would you have a problem with that?

 

Just curious did they fully transition and then have IVF to have the baby?

 

Oh I do know better, and those cases make up and incredibly small % of the fluid gender people.

 

They fully transitioned. Not sure how the baby was conceived.

 

Wiki page on the fraternal birth order effect. The more older brothers a male has from the same mother, the greater the probability he will have a homosexual orientation. There have now been studies done on male-to-female transsexuals and the same effect holds.

Fraternal birth order and male sexual orientation - Wikipedia.

 

Nature vs Nurture...

 

Obviously just a guess. Most likely IVF. They either used a sperm donor or the person who transitioned to female preserved their (don't like to use that pronoun but in this case it seems appropriate) semen prior to surgical transition.

 

Point well made although my guess is that in reality transgender MTF persons who have transitioned are much less likely to develop prostrate cancer than normal males even if they still retain their prostates considering that they have probably have been receiving female hormones over an extended period of time and that their testicles have probably also been surgically removed.

 

Nature. From the wiki page:

"In summation, it was found that biological older brothers significantly predicted male sexual orientation regardless of whether or how long participants were reared with these brothers whereas the remaining sibling categories, including non-biological older brothers, did not. These results thus support a prenatal origin to sexual orientation development in men"