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Shinzo Abe shot

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jul 7, 2022.

  1. dingyibvs

    dingyibvs Premium Member

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  2. Emmitto

    Emmitto VIP Member

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    How so?

    What nation’s assassin got him? And why?

    Pretty rude of you not to go ahead and give us the insight you had in the first thirty-five minutes. Give us the REAL scoop on this unheard of political assassination by a foreign entity.
     
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  3. Gatorrick22

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    They have the right to defend their national interests just like the U.S.A. has that right.
     
  4. dingyibvs

    dingyibvs Premium Member

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    Of course, and it's in our national interest to make sure that it's in their national interest to advance ours. Abe's signature foreign policy move was repproachment with Russia. I'm sure you can see how that may be an issue if Japan was not so beholden to our interests.
     
  5. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Yea, that appears to be the connection that they are attempting to avoid publicizing.

    More here. Shinzo Abe's family history might provide insight into why he was targeted by a man with a grudge

    and here

    “American carnage” with a Japanese dub
     
  6. wgbgator

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  7. dingyibvs

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    There's a lot about Abe's actions that are hidden from mainstream Western media. His brand of politics won't die with him. IMO it's best to keep Japan militarily weak and dependent on us. If Abe's and his cohort's brand of nationalism is allowed to grow unchecked it may not be of benefit to us. After all, if they believe that they're the victims in WWII, it's pretty clear who the perpetrators would be in their narrative.

    Abe’s Nationalism Is His Most Toxic Legacy

    "Suppose the Nazi leader Hermann Göring had a grandson who was “emotionally attached to ‘conservatism’” because people around him “used to point to [his] grandfather as a … ‘war criminal’” and he “felt strong repulsion.” The younger Göring entered politics and promptly joined a group of lawmakers who issued a report finding that in World War II, Nazi Germany did not wage a war of aggression; that the Wehrmacht was protecting Europe from communism; that Nazi Germany’s invasion of Czechoslovakia shouldn’t be called an “invasion” because the Sudetenland was historically German; and that the viewpoint to the contrary is a “masochistic” view of history that made it impossible for Germans to feel proud of their country.

    Imagine the younger Göring went on to become the chancellor of Germany, pass laws that grant the government with sweeping surveillance power, and hound critical journalists, making the country fall 56 places in the World Press Freedom Index in less than a decade. He would send flowers to Waffen SS memorials each year and claim the Holocaust was greatly exaggerated, arguing the Jewish people volunteered to work in the labor camps: “The fact is, there is no evidence to prove there was coercion.”

    In a retrospective about Göring’s politician grandson, would anyone consider him a defender of freedom and democracy? Yet in the wake of Shinzo Abe’s death last week, that was the general assessment of the former prime minister of Japan, particularly in U.S. foreign-policy circles. Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, for example, praised Abe as “a champion of democracy” and promoter of women’s rights. Even when his historical revisionism has been mentioned, it’s been relegated to a secondary issue—or even lauded."
     
  8. tampagtr

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    Thanks so much. I've been reading quite a bit following his death. A very high level of generality, the economists all seem to laud him, but obviously there's the darkness of nationalism. I take your point.
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    It's a very good symbiotic relationship, and should be a more equal military relationship given China's military threat to the region.
     
  10. chemgator

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    The assassin, whose father committed suicide years ago, had to quit college when his mother gave the family fortune ($722k) over to the Unification Church. She even sold the family house and turned over some of the proceeds to the Church. This was a messed-up dude.

    Shinzo Abe’s assassin forced to give up college after mother's $722,000 donation to Unification Church, says uncle

     
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  11. tampagtr

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