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DeSantis Higher Ed approach

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jul 2, 2022.

  1. toprowgator

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    Why should he have to be worried about being protected, though?
     
  2. gator_lawyer

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    No, I mean exactly what I said. The Republican Party's anti-intellectualism has driven educated people out of the party. It's why we're seeing such major shifts in the suburbs. The country club Republicans of old are changing sides.

    If you're asking if "the Left" is verbally attacking SCOTUS, the answer is yes.
     
  3. gator_lawyer

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    You're the one who said he's worried about speaking up about his politics, not me.
     
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  4. toprowgator

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    Once again, why should he have to rely on a contractual agreement in order to have a political conversation when the other 95% do not?
     
  5. gator_lawyer

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    The others rely on it too. Hell, even with tenure protections, many people in Florida higher education are afraid of speaking out right now. They're concerned about DeSantis and his political allies retaliating against them.
     
  6. toprowgator

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    Driven people out of the party, where, California? Republicans have gained about 400k in voter registration in Florida over the past 4 years.

    Dems screaming about "bad law"? Sounds about right. Funny how the dems hate things bring given back to the States ... not enough control?
     
  7. toprowgator

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    Weak. Everyone reading this know the rules on campus. Try again, please.
     
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  8. toprowgator

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    Going to bed. It's been fun ... not really, but have to warm up as November is approaching fast.
     
  9. gator_lawyer

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    You're incorrect. But I know cognitive biases and know that you're not movable on this sort of belief.

    The data is clear on the demographic switches in party affiliation over the past 30 years. White, blue-collar voters have flipped Republican, while educated voters have flipped Democratic. You are welcome to not like that reality, but facts don't care about your feelings.

    I do hate giving decisions over rights and equality to the states. I know our history, particularly Jim Crow.
     
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  10. QGator2414

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    We have to fix the ability of Karen’s to ignore people and that negate the ability for the people they want to ignore see what they post. Seriously…

    Imcan see responses that are clearly to someone who has ignored me but I have no idea what they said. 99% sure it would be lawyer. And it is fine that lawyer wants to ignore me. But it makes following a thread like this ridiculous!
     
  11. slayerxing

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    I’ve adjuncted at a catholic university and they straight up sent out emails saying you could be fired for being pro abortion on your social media. Politics matter.

    that being said at a more “liberal” institution you’d have to say some pretty heinous shit as a faculty to not get tenure as long as you are a good teacher/researcher.
     
  12. slayerxing

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    thanks for making my point for me lol. Can’t teach that in Ag when all the evidence from years of research says it’s true. What’s interesting is there are entire areas of research dedicated to teaching ag people how to talk to farmers about the realities of climate change without upsetting them politically. So in that way conservative ideology is influence higher Ed lol
     
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  13. slayerxing

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    It’s just sad to me when people with no real clue about how universities are run chime in like some expert and discount people who have been behind the curtain.

    I’ll say this too. Higher education institutions have been around for a long long long time, and are the foundation on which our modern western political and economic systems are built. They are super important to this country and no matter what happens in this next election they aren’t going anywhere.

    the elite class of the Republican Party knows this. As evidenced by how they continue to spend money to support it even as they spew garbage to their supporters about it.
     
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  14. ajoseph

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    My post was 100% biting sarcasm, disparaging the Supreme Court’s bogus “strict constructionist” rationale for reducing mine by one, our fundamental rights. I apologize that my sarcasm was not transparent.
     
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  15. ajoseph

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    Just to be crystal clear, I explained my post above. Tit es not intended to be literal, it was sarcasm deriding inconsistent and irrational reasoning by our current Court.
     
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  16. ajoseph

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    DeSantis is trying to suppress criticism and critique against his reign at ever level, from the press to the classroom to the government agencies. He is firing anyone, anywhere, in every level, who speak against his policies.

    Even today, a pediatrician was fired from the Florida Health Kids Board, because she said that kids should be vaccinated.

    Pediatrician ousted from state board for COVID comments
     
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  17. mutz87

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    What do you mean that you've been through the system?
     
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  18. mutz87

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    That sarcasm went right over my head! :D
     
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    We all do, tenured or not. It's why I don't address politics or major social issues in my classes, where they tend not to be related. If I did, I would run the risk of reprimand or worse. If the students opt to got there, I'm happy to mediate, ensuring that all views are respected. The notion that professors indoctrinate students toward some monolithic liberal ideology is completely fallacious.
     
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  20. slayerxing

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    If he means as a student, then... LOL
     
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