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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. WC53

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  4. duchen

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    BA4 and BA5 are particularly effective in evading vaccine immunity and immunity from prior infection. I got a Moderna booster 5-and-a-half weeks before I started showing symptoms a week and a half ago. In the link below are examples of people who had prior Omicron infections and then were reinfected a few months later by BA4 or BA5. The only efficacy of the vaccine or prior infection at this point is the prevention of severe illness by the education of the immunize system to deal with the protein. I am just not sure that continuing to boost will make a difference because the immense system has already been educated to recognize the protein by the first 3 jabs and the vaccines plainly have little effect on creating an antibody response that lasts long term. Anecdotally, we have the posters here who recently got sick despite vaccination and boosted. My friend relays at least 4 people he knows, all in California, who were vaccinated and boosted who became infected. May law partner traveled and his family all became infected. At some points, enough anecdotes become worthy of investigation.
    https://www.latimes.com/california/...t-in-california-thanks-to-ba-4-ba-5?_amp=true
     
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  5. gatordavisl

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    Glad to hear that you and your wife are doing well. The other night I was at a bar and met this young couple. The female was obviously hammered & wanting to get all close-talky. She just wouldn't stop talking & was breathing all over me. Before leaving, they mentioned that she had just recently contracted Covid. o_O

    This was after playing a three hour gig a week ago next to a saxophonist who one day later told us that he tested positive. I was def exposed, but didn't have symptoms and since we are off work, I didn't test. After a few days, I might have to take a test after drunk Covid girl got all in my face.
     
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    from worldometer as of yesterday overall deaths are 1.166%, since april 1st .41%
     
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  7. duchen

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    you cant avoid this variant. I hope you don't get it.
     
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  8. duchen

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    BTW: i feel great now.
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    It's about the same as the annual flu.
     
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    I wasn't going to bump the thread but since it's back at the top i thought this was interesting. Friend in his 20s and healthy got covid. Not sure how severe his symptoms were but he wasn't hospitalized or anything. He was antivaccine and hypercritical of the concern for the virus as he chalked it up to another flu and claimed time to be all political. Apparently went to a doctor after having mood swings and other issues and was found to have brain swelling post covid. Just found it interesting because as I said he is young and healthy otherwise.
     
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    The more times you catch COVID, the sicker you’re likely to get with each reinfection. That’s the worrying conclusion of a new study drawing on data from the U.S. Veterans Administration.

    Scientists stressed they need more data before they can say for sure whether, and why, COVID might get worse the second, third, or fourth time around. But with more and more people getting reinfected as the pandemic lurches toward its fourth year, the study hints at some of the possible long-term risks.

    To get a handle on the health impact of reinfection, re-reinfection and even re-re-reinfection, three researchers—Ziyad Al-Aly from the Washington University School of Medicine plus Benjamin Bowe and Yan Xie, both from the V.A. St. Louis Health Care System—scrutinized the health records of 5.7 million American veterans.


    How COVID Could Screw You Worse With Each Reinfection
     
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  13. buckeyegator

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    well if you go by deaths, see my post about 5 above.
     
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    I finished my Pax series last week. My symptoms were moderate but trending worse and Pax knocked them out in about 24 hours. No rebound...yet. Minor intestinal irritation as a side effect.

    My wife tested positive 3 days after I did. More mild symptoms than mine. Doc recommended against using Pax and she's recovering nicely but still has cold-like symptoms and no taste 6 days after her positive test.
     
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    This was obvious a month plus ago in Florida. Covid was rampant. Most people have moved on and treat it as the flu now. They are not going to run to the ER or Doctor for this. Thankfully the omicron variant and subvariants are not as severe though likely more transmissible.

    As I have said…most moved on a while ago.
     
  16. duchen

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    The Paxlovid really helps especially if viral load is high.
     
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    https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ba-5-now-a-majority-of-us-covid-19-cases/amp/ The vaccines and antibodies produced will not, more likely than not, prevent someone from getting these variants. I was 4 and a half weeks from the 4th Moderna jab when I got COVID. Pretty clear that this was one of the new variants because I had anti-bodies from that vaccination. I shudder to think what might have been if I didn’t have those antibodies and T cell memory.
     
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    Read the link I posted. They are finding that BA4 and BA5 Cause more serious disease than the earlier Omicron variants. They are the dominant variants and are spreading widely now.
     
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    I wonder if that's the variant my cousin and his fiance have. They are both early 20s, very fit, and neither have ever smoked. He's on the mend but her oxygen is staying in the 90-92 range. Neither were vaxxed.
     
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  20. duchen

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    Wow. Is she in the hospital? More likely than not, that is the variant they have. Especially if they had a prior infection.