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Roe v Wade Overturned

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorGrowl, Jun 24, 2022.

  1. PerSeGator

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    No he doesn't.

    Power, not reason, is the new currency of this Court’s decisionmaking.
     
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  2. GatorFanCF

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    Okay - we’ve read the first few reactions. Now, what does this really mean?

    To my understanding it means there now is no FEDERAL right to abortion…but abortion is not outlawed. Is that correct?

    Perhaps it will outlawed in some states soon. The crux of the decision is that the Feds no longer can mandate it legal
     
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  3. 96Gatorcise

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    I disagree with this decision.

    The way to rectify this is to elect enough like minded representatives in your state and the federal level to vote in laws legalizing abortion.

    Protest at the ballot box
     
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  4. swampbabe

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    It has been outlawed immediately in 16(?) states with trigger laws.
     
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  5. swampbabe

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    Kinda like slavery?
     
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  6. VAg8r1

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    Welcome to the theocracy.

    Only a matter of times before incidents similar to these occur in the so called "prolife" states that will have effectively outlawed abortion.
    Andrea Prudente an American woman experienced the same condition as Ms. Halappanaravar and Ms. Sajbor while vacationing in Malta, a country with an abortion ban similar to those in effect in Ireland (since rescinded) and Poland and may have experienced the same fate were she not able to fly to Spain for the procedure where it was legal.
    How an Abortion Ban Trapped a Tourist on Malta

    Only a matter of time before one or more women in one of the so called prolife theocracies loses her life because physicians were intimidated by the state from performing medically necessary abortions and perhaps the ultimate tragic irony is that the fetuses died despite the laws nominally enacted to protect "unborn children".
     
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  7. sierragator

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    Vote like your lives and rights depend on it.
     
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  8. pkaib01

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    The court says there is no fundamental, Constitutional right to abortion. It's not some striking of an existing Federal law. It has far reaching implications for other rights we've fought for (Loving).
     
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  9. Swamplizard

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    Abortion policy is in the hands of the states following the Supreme Court’s Friday decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    But it could take months for all the legal maneuvering to be completed and for the nation to have a more definitive picture over where abortion is legal, said Greer Donley, a professor specializing in reproductive health care at the University of Pittsburgh Law School.


    Abortion laws by state: Where abortions are illegal after Roe v. Wade
     
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  10. pkaib01

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    Because it's no longer a right, states are free to impose whatever penalties they like on women. Including the death penalty.
     
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  11. PerSeGator

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    IMO Biden needs to channel Lincoln and take direct action to rectify this travesty.

    Direct the VA to immediately begin providing abortion services to all residents nationwide.
     
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  12. Emmitto

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    I mean it’s a fact that his marriage is not in the text.

    And clearly that version of marriage was not an originalist concept, and most certainly not a historical, long-established principle.

    I think it’s best that Judge Ginni and Clarence are divorced by decree by end of day. Prolly should consider jail for Clarence too, for obvious reasons.
     
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  13. Woollybooger

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    Actually not outlawed, but limited I agree, and according to the wishes of those states citizens. No need to exaggerate what was actually done by this ruling. If you don't want to live in these states and feel strongly about their laws, you are free to move where you wish.
     
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  14. thatguy

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    Now
    About that same-sex "marriage" thing ...
     
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  15. g8trjax

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    The court giveth and the court taketh away.
     
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  16. VAg8r1

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    I'm not so sure that the families of Savita Halappanavar, Izabela Sajbor and American women who will suffer a similar fate to those women (death following denial of medically necessary abortions) in the future would agree.
    And what the court taketh away could be the lives of pregnant women.
     
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  17. swampbabe

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    No, in some states it is illegal NOW.
     
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  19. GatorBen

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    Relatively certain they couldn’t impose the death penalty.

    Kennedy v. Louisiana
    struck down Louisiana’s statute making child rape a capital crime and held that imposing the death penalty for a crime against an individual that did not result in the death of the victim is inconsistent with the Eighth Amendment.

    While Alito, Scalia, Thomas, and Robert’s dissented in Kennedy, I would be surprised to see that overturned given that there doesn’t seem to be any movement since 2008 towards expanding the use of the death penalty.
     
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  20. pkaib01

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    Giveth rights and taketh them away.

    We're going backwards.
     
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