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Why do people blame gas prices on Presidents?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Diesel350z, Mar 9, 2022.

  1. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    The article was about rising gas prices in 2018. Its conclusion: They aren't Trump's fault.
     
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    I understand that any fact checking website is your enemy, give the absolute trash you post here day after day.

    The ad hominem attack of the FactCheck because of its funding is laughable. An organization can be true to its charter regardless of its sponsorship. FactCheck.org is an IFCN signatory. Stop seeing boogeymen.

    If you want to challenge the website's integrity, do it quantitatively. Find frequent errors in its reporting. This broad brush dismissal is laaaaazzzzzzy.

    From MediaBiasFactCheck on the site you're impugning:

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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/factcheck/
     
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  3. gatorpa

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    Seems like that's only the case if it is Trump.
     
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  4. gatorpa

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    I would argue the last stimulus wasn't needed, many economists did too.
     
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  5. gatorpa

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  6. pkaib01

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    Blame what on the person in charge? The existence of Covid, no. The poor Federal Government's response, absolutely.

    It's also a false equivalence. Naturally.
     
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  7. gatorpa

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    Yeah. Those Harvard graduates are renown for their inability to find work.

    Good grief.
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    I said it was probably the correct policy at the time. Demand rebounded after the Covid lockdowns ended, supply has yet to catch up. When demand increases at a greater than supply and that principle applies regardless of the commodity or product, the price increases. Eventually, supply will catch up and prices will begin to drop.
     
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  12. rivergator

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    Actually, he said they would phase them out. Meanwhile, there are thousands of permits for drilling on federal land that the companies have not started using.
    And you have this:
    New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Trump’s By 34%
     
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    So how exactly do permits that might or might not be acted on, exploration that hasn’t been completed or pipelines that wouldn’t have been completed for years (to ship oil overseas) affect the current price of gas?
    Refineries running at 95+ percent? Now we can argue that we could use refineries in the NE corridor for sure along with a pipeline to get it there, but has anyone proposed this? The last refinery was canceled because it was cheaper to have oil refined or brought in from overseas than to do it here. Business stock decisions absent some government subsidies as part of national security?
    We are the number one oil producing nation. And yet
     
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    And more recently.
    Even as Biden Pushes Clean Energy, He Seeks More Oil Production
    A long term goal of reducing reliance on fossil fuels and a short-term goal of increasing production are not mutually exclusive.
     
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    MSNBC, WaPo, ABC figures warn voters against gas prices influencing their vote in November


    Responding to the media defense of Biden, PRICE Futures Group senior market analyst Phil Flynn said Biden administration policies like drilling moratoriums and killing the Keystone Pipeline are driving down investment in oil and gas, hurting supply and raising prices.

    "I think out of every president in recent history, if you can blame a president for rising gasoline prices, President Biden owns this gasoline price hike," Flynn told Fox News Digital. "Why? Because every policy he has put into place has raised the cost of gasoline."

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    Even the Democratic media can see it now and they are bringing out the big guns:

    "The View" host Joy Behar absolved Biden of any responsibility for the energy crisis and said Republicans just wanted to make Biden "look bad."

    On MSNBC's "Morning Joe," branding guru Donny Deutsch fretted that pocketbook issues would win out with voters this year and in 2024 as more important to them than America's democracy being "in peril."
     
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    Oil & Gas industry says Biden is a big meanie as they pocket record profits. They also wish to add that they aren't responsible for oil spills, climate change or any pollution.
     
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  18. VAg8r1

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    It was Trump who made the statement back in February 2020 that it would disappear in the near future (implicitly in March of that year) and a week or two later referred to concern over the virus as the new Democrat hoax. The virus may not have been trump's fault but it's clear that he didn't take it very seriously.
    All of the times President Trump said Covid-19 will disappear
    Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'
     
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  19. gatorpa

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    I don't disagree Trump should have taken it more seriously.

    Didn't Biden claim he would beat COVID when he was running for POTUS?
    COVID deaths under Biden passed the Trump death toll long ago and that's with a vaccine, with numerous great treatments and with a lot more knowledge of how to treat those that get severe illness. So much winning;).
     
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