Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

That he did. I know some folks up at my old hs who were upset with him due to his refusal to get vaxxed (prior to him getting covid) and they voiced their concerns. Whether he regrets his choice now, I don't know, but it's hard for me to fathom how someone wouldn't after having gone through what he did.

 

If you think these drugs slowed spread…you are only seeking answers you want.

If you want to take a guaranteed low risk when you are already low risk knowing the drug will not stop you from getting the disease. Go for it. But spare the idea there is a guarantee a low risk person would not have had a bad outcome if they took the jab. For multiple reasons.

 

And you have no idea what the outcome would have been had he been vaccinated. Whether he would have had one of the adverse effects. Or whether he would have had a severe result. The data speaks. If you are low risk…this is a cold/flu. That is the reality for most. Especially now with omicron and the variants close to it. You want to boost with an archaic drug. Go for it.

 

They slowed spread. The Canadian controlled study showed that. The one I posted and you ignored. Repeatedly. Even when I kept linking it to respond to your posts it Disproved. And, more importantly, they slowed severe Disease. They trained immune systems to recognize the protein and respond quicker. It was no longer a novel disease. And intestines immune systems did not overreact. They prevented severe disease and death. The studies have been clear. And every time someone points out a study, you ignore it and just go back to puking the same disinformation. No sense in any ofus repeatedly posting the same information that might be a free thousand posts upthread and forgotten. Your opinion doesn’t matter. You aren’t a virologist or epidemiologist. You are just a free rider.

 

I know that he would have been at far less a risk for the damage that happened to him.

The vaccines are safe so your "adverse effects" argument is complete bunk. Stop mischaracterizing things.

 

I am not mischaracterizing anything. You have just got tunnel vision and refuse to acknowledge getting vaccinated might be the best for one person. Not getting vaccinated might be best for another person. It is a virus and we have a vaccine that is archaic. But you do what you need to do. The rest of us are moving on accordingly.

 

Your repeatedly saying "the rest of us are moving on" is a strawman. That isn't what I've been discussing, and ntm it's a bad assumption. Fallacious arguments are cheap rhetorical devices.

No, the vaccines are not archaic. That they've protected people against hospitalization and death is why manufacturers are not so quick to develop next generation ones (though the major manufactures are working on them as covid has become endemic). Mis & Disinfo has been deadly, especially on the right.

 

All studies show that at all ages, the vaccine reduces hospitalization and death. Period. If there is one study that shows otherwise, I've yet to see it. But would love to read it. But I know it doesn't exist.

There are no guarantees. With any vaccine. The term breakthrough case is much older than COVID. But want the best way to lower your risk? No better way than the vaccine.

This is the truth. Backed by multiple studies, not to mention, millions of dead people. And if you want to see the results of higher vaccine versus lower, look at red versus blue counties. Had deep red counties had vaccination rates like deep blue, an estimated 300,000+ people would still be with us.

 

If the pharmacist was wearing a mask and still tested positive 5 times, was he not wearing the mask properly or perhaps proof that masks don’t work

 

Masks reduce exposure to viral load. And more for others by blocking what the wearer wears. He never had symptoms so his viral load was likely Low. Measurable but low. Low viral load means less virus to replicate until the immune system can take over. If you don’t get sick, the mask and immune response worked.

 

Which helps explain why many healthcare workers have been able to withstand repeated exposure to covid.

 

Speaking of measurable but low. One of the issues throughout the pandemic was in regard to the cycle threshold of PCR tests, making some tests extremely sensitive in detecting trace amounts of virus. I don't know if some experts would consider this basically a false positive, but it's definitely led to a large but unknown number of positive results where the infected person barely had any virus to speak of.

 

You keep living in the past and believe as you wish. Big pharma loves you!

 

Not 5 times. The cycle threshold identitied infection. Sometimes it took that long, sometimes it was due to low viral load. Likely in most of those tests. It was never clear if asymptotic people at low thresholds we’re infectious. Probably.

 

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COVID-19 was deadly to working-class Americans in 2020, researcher says

 

The researchers discovered other disparities:

• The age-adjusted COVID-19 death rate of working-class Hispanic men was more than 27 times higher than the death rate for white women in higher socioeconomic jobs.
• Working-class Black men had a death rate that was nearly 20 times higher than the death rate for white women who graduated from a four-year college.
• The death rate for working-class Black women was about 13 times higher than the rate for white women with at least a bachelor’s degree.
• Working-class white men had a death rate roughly four times higher than the rate for white men in high socioeconomic positions.

 

Now let's look at the obesity levels of those "disparities". That usually ends up being a major factor for younger people dying from covid.

 

Weight is a factor. But a large study showed BMI played a significant factor in the outcome for those 65 and older. For those under 65, weight was much less a factor.

 

Obesity is a huge factor:

"Patients with COVID-19 with underweight had a 20% (95% CI = 16%–25%) higher risk for hospitalization than did those with a healthy weight. Patients aged <65 years with underweight were 41% (95% CI = 31%–52%) more likely to be hospitalized than were those with a healthy weight, and patients aged ≥65 years with underweight were 7% (95% CI = 4%–10%) more likely to be hospitalized."