Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

What random threat is that? The same one that had a bunch of fully vaccinated people out and about Covid positive thinking they had allergies or a cold because we told them they would not get Covid when delta hit?

I think the vaccines were somewhat beneficial for alpha. Outside that…eh. But we put far more people at risk based on the rollout. A healthy person did not put you at any risk.

 

It's a steep price to pay and exactly why no public health leader/expert worth their salt went with a policy that relied on trying to achieve herd immunity naturally. Covid would have picked off way too many people, including many otherwise healthy people in order to achieve herd immunity benefits.

I'm convinced that if there is a any lesson to be learned is that we have to do a much better job in educating people about infectious disease and the nature of risk--it's obvious to me that too many still don't grasp why officials were alarmed about covid from the outset after learning about only a few cases and why shutdowns and distancing basically had to occur in the face of a novel virus and no natural immunity.

 

The random threat that even though the risk is lower, it's not zero for younger, healthy people to stricken with a serious case of COVID. At one point, in Australia, people between 30 and 49 represented 26% of all COVID hospitalizations. And there are plenty of stories like these, which document two, otherwise healthy 30 somethings who both died from COVID.

Yes, the risk of COVID is lower if you are younger, but it's not zero. And the best way to lower the risk even further? Be fully vaccinated. I'm not going to link them again, but several studies show that at any age group, the vaccinated fare far better in terms of hospitalizations and deaths. So unless you are going to argue all in the vaccinated group are healthy, and all in the unvaxxed are slovenly, overweight blobs, there's ample evidence at the efficacy of the vaccine at lowering the risk of a severe case.

 

I don't put people on ignore but I didn't even answer his question because there is no point.

 

We put far more people at risk during the delta surge by telling them they were not going to get Covid if they got vaccinated. The drugs failed miserably at slowing the spread as alpha was on its way out as the vaccines became available. They helped with a small therapeutic response for some. But once delta hit…they were not what the public health establishment sold. And that was dangerous. As Covid positive people were out thinking they had allergies or a cold as that is what Covid is to most. Even delta. An unfortunate reality that we can do nothing about. Not as bad as the decision to keep schools closed. But the vaccinate everyone regardless while saying/implying the drugs would stop Covid is another one of the disasters from this pandemic.

***and we are still pushing the same archaic drug***

 

Swing and a miss…..again.

 

It depends on who got vaccinated and who didn’t.

 

Expected response…

 

The studies say otherwise concerning risk. The Canadian study I posted. Thanks for your scientific assessment of the cause of the heart attack of your friend’s dad.

 

1% is 3 million people. Our right wing anti vaxxers are willing to accept that level of death. They are actually free rider propagandists who post statistics that disregard age controlled/vaccine rate data in spreading their falsehoods. Age controlled data only matters when they compare state death rates; them Florida’s aging population is a factor. But when they post about the English vaccination-death statistics, they ignore age controlled vaccine rate data.

 

He believed he was Low risk. And may have been. But some low risk fall into the low statistical category of bad consequences. Rolled the dice and drew snake eyes. Your friend made his or her choice. And, Most will not regret their choice. Just the ones who drew snake eyes. The larger majority of whom could have protected themselves.

 

Well excuse me Missy. Next time try staying on topic.

 

Why boosted Americans seem to be getting more COVID-19 infections
By Alexander Tin

June 2, 2022 / 2:40 PM / CBS News

As COVID-19 cases began to accelerate again this spring, federal data suggests the rate of breakthrough COVID infections in April was worse in boosted Americans compared to unboosted Americans — though rates of deaths and hospitalizations remained the lowest among the boosted.

The new data do not mean booster shots are somehow increasing the risk. Ongoing studies continue to provide strong evidence of additional protection offered by booster shots against infection, severe disease, and death.

Instead, the shift underscores the growing complexity of measuring vaccine effectiveness at this stage of the pandemic. It comes as officials are weighing key decisions on booster shots and pandemic surveillance, including whether to continue using the "crude case rates" at all.


Why boosted Americans seem to be getting more COVID-19 infections

 

What do you guys/gals think of this? Not going to judge it.. leaving here for you all to decide whether or not you want to believe it or not. It's a doctor on video talking about the document/s released by Pfizer on their covid-19 vaccine.

NEW: Pfizer Releases More Documents

 

Again expected. Not wanting to address the whole picture. Just what you want to believe. Par for the course. Missy.

 

You would think there is no risk to taking an unnecessary drug reading this. That is not the case though.

 

A new study released today showed early COVID deaths, before the vaccine, for the working age group 18-64 were predominantly among lower income groups. While the study looked at education level, since occupation isn't listed on many death certificates, the assumption is the lower the education level, the more likely a person worked a low wage, "essential" job.

The study also shows the effectiveness of the lock downs. Those who had the ability to work from home at a significantly lower chance of dying than those who could not. A confirmation of early modeling that showed if we did nothing, up to 3 million Americans may have died.

 

I’m not going to even watch it, Rick. I don’t need to. You’ve proven yourself repeatedly to be a purveyor of the most absurd bullshit that no reasonable person can take you seriously.

 

That 3 million figure is about what I thought. My pharmacist has had to be at work throughout this so he has been tested repeatedly. Told me last week that he tested positive 5 different times. Once had a cold and 4 times asymptotic. People in jobs who have to greet the public have been repeatedly exposed to this. Often by selfish scum who won’t get vaccinated or wear masks and don’t care one bit about the people they exposed. Because it is all about them.

 

Very Low risk drug. And not unnecessary. Free rider jerks rely on other people to get vaccinated or sick so societal immunity spreads and then claim they don’t need the drugs. Ask a virologist. Someone who knows science. It the usual BS artists from whom you are misinformed.