Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Makes sense. FL is the 4 oldest state by population and CA is the 4th youngest. Congrats on your awesome “gotcha” moment LOL.

 

That’s one of your more disturbing responses.

 

LOL. I guess facts got in the way of your rant.

 

Actually the people who had covid and not the shot are much more protected. The vaxxed people are the only people I know continuing to come down with the virus. The worst part is the immunity of our older population is being ravaged by the vax. Some of my older friends have really gotten older fast. 3 of my great friends lost their dads in the last 10 days. 1 was the heart. I have not heard about the other two but will this weekend.

 

That is part of it. The bigger part is Covid hit regionally in the early stages especially. The southeast and midwest was hit with the more dangerous delta variant much harder and earlier.

 

Good gosh.Wrong again. The disease is the cause of the damage. The ideas that you subscribe to is what has gotten a lot of people unnecessarily killed. It's a perversion of rational thought and it's ill-informed.

 

Against Omicron, people who had the shot and an infection are the most protected. But just prior, non-Omicron infection? The NI isn't as robust as it is with other variants. This is for re-infection. For serious cases that require hospitalization or worse, NI against Omicron does about as well as being fully vaccinated. Still, there's no reason not to get vaccinated. If you have never been infected, it's the safest way to get the most protection. If you have been infected, the vaccine will act as a booster and give you increased protection.

 

Every time you think you’ve got me on something you end up tripping over your own laziness. There were no facts in your post, just a disgusting assumption. Had you not been so intellectually lazy, and even been the least bit curious enough to take a look, you’d see death rates were higher in states with low vaccination rates, especially among the elderly.

 

Fact:FL the 4th oldest state
Fact:CA the 4th youngest population.

sorry to ruin your little moment. Move one. You look foolish.

 

See? You can’t even follow the discussion. We’re talking about Covid deaths, not the age of the populations. Even then you can’t get your facts straight. Maine has the highest number of seniors, and they rank #30.

 

If we really wanted to look into CA vs FL, we'd look at not only age. But vaccination rate by age, and then death by vaccination rate and age. That would tell the full story, rather than just being lazy and saying age makes all the difference. It's a factor, yes, but not the only one. Here's vaccination rate, by age, for example.

The 65 and older crowd for both states are highly vaccinated. But for those 18-64, we see CA has a 6.5% higher rate of fully vaccinated than FL.

Now I'll admit that I'm too lazy to look it up. But it would be interesting to see death per capita by age range in each state. Would it show that for the 65 and older crowd, FL and CA have similar COVID death rates? And the difference between the two states is really the 18-64 crowd? I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if this is the case.

 

Does Covid affect the elderly more so than the young? Simple question. When you answer it then you might have a clue. Not holding my breath.

 

Pure nonsense. You have fallen for the propaganda and listened to a government doctor that wanted 15 minutes of fame.

It was a terrible virus. And the idiot authoritarian fauci spelled out exactly how to navigate it back in 2019. We have caused generational damage and some still think wearing a mask in public actually does something.

Your bs that those who choose/chose not to vaccinate are the problem is one of the actual main problems. Instead of letting healthy people at little risk make decisions for themselves you and your ilk falsely accuse them of malice. It is ridiculous. But par for the course when it comes to how propaganda works.

You can continue to live in fear. Boost away. Do what you need to do. The majority of us are moving on accordingly.

If you want to actually do something that will provide real benefit against Covid and for your health long term…listen to facui in 2019 before he became and evil tyrant.

 

People still look at "damage" as life vs death. A friend of mine got Covid early last year. 40 years and healthy. Changed her outlook on life as she was hospitalized for a month and then took another 6 to 8 months to be able to go for walks on the bridge as excercise. Only recently was she able to get rid if the prescribed inhaler. I have a few personal friends with similar albeit not as severe experiences. I don't bother arguing with people though because no one is looking to have their minds changed.

 

Your own laziness is to not account for the fact the southeast was hit by the delta wave and California benefited from omicron beginning to take over by the time it got there. But hey…we can all find what we want to find. The question is who is actually being open and skeptical at the same time. As the propaganda has controlled so many.

 

There is not much to change. Well if people would exercise and get in shape that would benefit them based on the data. And not just from Covid but many other diseases. Many other diseases that unfortunately affect healthy people sometimes. But that is a key way to protect yourself.

Covid was a terrible virus. But it is not that dangerous to most.

We made terrible public health policy decisions in the process unfortunately though…

 

Look man. I'm not trying to change your mind but I say this respectfully, I don't care how you measure risk. Not dangerous to most leaves a random threat that I have personally been effected by. I don't fear vaccines and while I don't think the country handled this appropriately regarding shutting down and half assed mask measures that turned into virtue signaling I think vaccines were beneficial even if they didn't prevent one from acquiring the virus.

 

Sorry about your friend. Was she vaxxed? Was she not serious about it before and is now?

I mentioned this several months ago on this thread. A good friend of mine, 52yo male, who is the principle at my old hs and unvaxxed, nearly died this past Jan. Had kidney failure, on a vent for six weeks, put in an induced coma. He survived and is out of the hospital, but is not in good shape and will have problems for the long foreseeable future. Not sure if his experience changed his perspective (he's not talking to many people right now), but like so many I know, he had bought into the bad info, mistakenly believing he was at zero risk. It's a fundamental misunderstanding of the unpredictable dangers of covid, and more generally, of infectious disease. The ill-informed understanding of so many is a defining feature of this situation.

I long ago gave up trying to change minds, however. Just don't like to remain silent. The peddlers of bad information shouldn't be allowed to do so unchecked.

 

She was not and she was told that her antibodies are still high so she will not be getting it for now either. The price she paid for natural immunity was a long hospital stay away from her family and a longer road to recovery. I don't think she took it seriously before because she was relatively young and healthy....