Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

It absolutely far less severe and not the same situation as it was in 2020. If you don’t want to accept that and live in the past. Your choice. Most of us are moving on accordingly.

 

The disease isn't any less severe, but vastly more people are protected by vaccinations now.

 

It is absolutely less severe. And we have therapeutics and learned how to treat as the new variants arise. But the newer variants do not attack deep in the lungs like the ancestral alpha variant or delta for that matter.

Covid is rampant right now. We will see less cases reported as many have moved on. It is a cold to most now. Can it be severe still? Absolutely. Just like the flu and a cold can.

You can choose to move on with the majority. Or live in the past. Your call.

 

Again, the data proves you're wrong. Again. From a study that compared 130,000 COVID cases by variant:

Researchers assessed the records of 130,000 Covid patients in the past two years, spanning periods when different variants were dominant across the world.

"We found that the risks of hospitalisation and mortality were nearly identical between periods," said the four scientists, three of whom are based at Harvard Medical School in Massachusetts.
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The big difference between when variants hit? High vaccination numbers when Omicron hit, which helped reduce hospitalization and mortality numbers. As proven by the data again. Kids under 18 about 2X more likely to be hospitalized with COVID if unvaccinated. And adults, 4.7X.

 

The majority has moved on… Q, 6:10pm EST, 6/1/22

 

LMAO

 

“Severe Illness
Omicron infection generally causes less severe disease than infection with prior variants. …”

Omicron Variant: What You Need to Know

 

You need to time stamp that bad boy far earlier…

 

From your link, updated this past March.

Preliminary data suggest that Omicron may cause more mild disease, although some people may still have severe disease, need hospitalization, and could die from the infection with this variant.
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The study I linked is more current, with better data. Still in pre-print, but once accepted, the CDC will update this page again to reflect the findings.

 

Not arguing we're in the same situation. You made the comparison to that it was a common cold. It is not. The common cold, or a viral respiratory illness that is the result of one of over 200 different viruses, including dozens of different coronaviruses, does not kill people. Even at this low point after successive waves, people are dying by the hundreds a day in the US from covid.

This means the current dominant strains are less severe, but it's also that there are a lot of people who are protected, and because it's not spreading like it was in Dec-Feb, less people will die. If somehow we see a new large spike, we'll see an increase in deaths, because the spread itself is responsible for increasing the likelihood of death and the virus itself is still more deadly than the cold (or flu).

 

The anti-vax mentality cost lives. It’s sad to hear feedback from hospital staff of patients dying, realizing too late, they should have gotten the vax.

Believing falsehoods is having real costly results.

“Even with widely available vaccines and newly effective treatments, residents of counties that went heavily for Donald Trump in the last presidential election are more than twice as likely to die from COVID-19 than those that live in areas that went for President Biden.”


Pro-Trump counties continue to suffer far higher COVID death tolls

 

I should have put /flu but assumed that most would understand the point. As that is where we are now. It is time to move on accordingly. But you are free not to.

 

It's not a question about moving on, it's a question about your not good understanding about why this virus has been treated like the danger that it is.

 

It is time to move on accordingly. But you can choose not to. Hopefully we have learned from the disastrous public health policies that have caused generational damage in the process.

 

"with covid".

 

Great article on the damage knowingly done to children from closing schools. Those who advocated for closing schools should feel awful, but I know from this thread they don't give a crap. Some here have been saying this since April 2020.

The COVID Cult Did Lasting Damage to Our Kids

While Dr. Noble’s early concerns were dismissed, today there is no shortage of articles and studies documenting the harm caused by COVID-19 school policies over the past two and a half years. The number of ER visits in 2021 by adolescent girls for suspected suicide attempts was 51% higher than during the same period in early 2019. Skyrocketing violence statistics involving young men, including a spate of shootings, may also be traceable to mental illnesses exacerbated by the enforced isolation of COVID-19.

There can be little question that closures permanently altered the relationship of many students to school. One survey found that the rate of chronically absent students nationwide is now 22%, 2.7 times what it was before school closures. In New York City, 4 out of 10 students are now chronically absent; in Los Angeles nearly half of all students are chronically absent. These statistics indicate an instructional system that in many cases has simply ceased to function.

The available numbers tell a worrying story of educational slippage that is likely to keep large numbers of kids from acquiring the basic skills, both intellectual and social, that they will need to hold decent jobs. Recent test scores have dramatically declined, with one report finding that in districts offering distance learning, the decline in passing rates for math was 10.1 percentage points greater than in districts that offered in-person instruction. In Maryland, 85% of students now are not proficient in math, and in Baltimore the figure is 93%. Michigan, Washington, and other states have found dramatic declines in their test scores. In Los Angeles, the decline has been worse for younger students, with 60% of third and fourth graders not meeting English standards compared to 40% of 11th graders. Overall, the youngest children were most profoundly impacted by lockdowns and school disruptions, and some of them now lack basic life skills.

 

The majority of the damage done to these kids are the low income kids who need the most help. The ones our bleeding hearts here say they care so much for. It is infuriating what was done to kids. Worst public health decision of our lifetimes for sure!

 

It was. And I said it in Spring of 2020, this would be a policy disaster to close schools. Don't worry, the lemmings who were arguing for closing schools won't admit it.

 

I was with you. The whole thing built on the premise of “essential workers”. These bleeding hearts need to own the disaster they perpetuated.

 

I’ll just drop this here.