Draft Alito opinion leaked overturning Roe

I'd say there are at least 3 regular posters here who believe this is true. At least.

 

But how do they get from the pizza place basement to the incinerator?

 

And they'll hide behind "every life is precious" to do it.

It's never been about the unborn. It's always been about control and returning society to the good old days where women and minorities were chattel and had no rights.

 

If aborted fetuses are discarded as medical waste, and medical wastes are burned.. then it's partially true. Whether the utilities use the burning of medical waste or other garbage to power some of their power stations, that i don't know.

 

I disagree with you. For many in the pro life movement, it's about the unborn. Where the timeline is drawn re abortion... that is different for many.

 

And that's their beliefs. THEIR beliefs. Which they're entitled to preach on, lead by example, have outreach programs, etc. They're not entitled to force their beliefs on others. They're not allowed to physically harass people. They're not allowed to have fake clinics. Etc.

As to being prolife. I put it at antiabortion not prolife. Because if they were prolife, they're not forcing women to have their rapist's baby. Not making them go without life-saving care because someone thinks ectopics can be saved. Not telling a woman she has to have the baby versus get an abortion and get chemo started. Etc. And most importantly there would be programs in place to provide housing, food, medical care throughout the pregnancy and beyond. That caring stops the moment that woman gives birth.

And again I was almost aborted. My mom decided against it despite what the doctors said. But it was HER choice.

The issue here is what is life? What is a life? Even the Church won't baptise stillborn babies because they didn't draw a breath. It wasn't alive. Others believe at viability (that's where I fall). Others think heartbeat. Others think the moment that sperm gets in, that's a life.

That's because everyone has different beliefs, which they're entitled to. Doesn't mean they get to force everyone else to do so. This isn't a theocracy.

 

Just because beliefs are religious based, people have a right to vote as they see fit. If enough of them vote a certain way, ultimately it becomes law. I'm with you on where i draw the line, at viability.

This is a major ethical issue which isn't going away. With changing technology and understanding of human DNA, we don't really know how babies will be conceived, carried, and born 50 to 100 years from now and beyond. So this issue will be with us forever.. when is a fetus a human as far as life protection is concerned.
IMO, we had a smaller minority in this country who supported unrestricted abortion, including late stage. We also have a minority in this country (IMO) who support banning abortion after fertilization. I believe the vast majority in this country would like to allow abortion in the first trimester and maybe a little more, and also don't want to allow abortions in the late 2nd and 3rd trimester. Just my opinion but unfortunately we hear mostly from the extremes.

 

Fully agree on the middle ground. The problem is that thanks to gerrymandering and flat out lying about their plans, the majority aren't going to be followed. It's the extremists that are going to get their way in places.

There is a very very very minor amount that wants it available until the 3rd trimester. That's too far along honestly unless it's a catastrophic situation (ie, brain dead in uterus).

And yes it's a moral dilemma. But not everyone has the same morals. What's worse is the sheer hypocrisy by so many anti-abortion politicians who turn around and get their mistresses to get abortions so they don't get caught.

It's like those who think alcohol is evil voting for prohibition. Look how well that turned out.

Abortions will still happen. The question is how many women are going to suffer/die needlessly because they couldn't get a safe abortion. Or because they couldn't get medical treatment because a pharmacy thinks they're getting abortives that are banned just to do an abortion when in fact it's because they already has a miscarriage.

 

When your intended audience is extremely gullible persuading them to believe the absurd isn't that much of a stretch. Let's not forget they believe the stories about the pizza place, the liberal Washington politician/Hollywood pedophile ring made public by "Q" who also mentioned that the one person who will save the children was a certain Donald Trump, Jewish space lasers, and most significantly the narrative that Trump really won the election and that it was stolen through massive fraud.

 

When you call people gullible and you yourself are taking in the rantings of a twitter clown, it's a bad look. Do your own research. I think there is some truth to what the lady said about the fetus being burned.

Why Are Aborted Fetuses Burned?

Abortion is not a particularly strong issue for me, i just like to check out what people say and see if it really is absurd.

 

They would be burned like all medical waste unless donated to science. Kidneys, uterus, prostates, blood products, needles, etc. They are NOT used to power a city which is the ludicrous point of her statement.

 

The article said medical waste is being burned in waste to energy power plants. I know you think its ludicrous but it seems if anyone does research on this its highly possible what she said is true

 

Watch the video. She said bodies burned to power homes when discussing the "bodies" being torn limb from limb, etc. She is not saying "medical waste". What she's saying is that fetuses are being aborted to power DC. She is DELIBERATELY painting a picture of people grabbing fetuses and chucking them into an incinerator like coal to power the plants.

She knows exactly what she's doing. And that isn't okay.

 

Meanwhile...
Anti-abortion activist charged with stalking a California doctor who provides abortions - CNN

"The next day, Hurley and others allegedly trespassed in the Women's Options Center at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital and Trauma Center, which offers abortion services. The group included a woman who allegedly pretended to be seeking counseling to get a nurse to come to the door, at which point members of the group "came out from hiding" and ran through the door and into the clinic, the release said.

Hurley and others "barged into the clinic and began filming patients and staff. Staff reported that these protesters were attempting to barge into operating rooms," the release said.

The group also allegedly entered the clinic where the doctor being targeted works and were "chanting the doctor's name and, 'We know who you are, we know what you do,'" according to the DA's office, which added that the group "harassed staff and patients, causing them to fear for their safety."

Later that night, Hurley and others allegedly placed stickers that said "a killer lives in your neighborhood" on the doctor's front door and at their neighbors' houses, the DA's office said. The group is also accused of placing flyers around the doctor's neighborhood with a QR code that led to a website that "specifically named the doctor, provided false, inflammatory claims about abortion procedures, and attacked the doctor for providing abortion services.""

 

YES! GO AHEAD!!

 

Louisiana Senator: Our Maternal Death Rates Are Only Bad If You Count Black Women

 

Sounds familiar. "Our Covid 19 infection rates are only so high because we insist on so much testing!"

 

These people advocating for the banning of all contraception are just crazy stupid. No way that that passes judicial or legislative muster.

 

Or wanting something done that's not scientifically possible, for example, and then not listening to the science.

Good graphic