Where are the voter fraud cries?

Only? No. When you do it in areas that are majority black, primarily? Yes. Literacy tests technically applied to everybody too. They just allowed for Grandfather clauses to make sure that it primarily affect black people. Implementation matters.

Yep, that is how you assess the situation before the event. But we know that it is harder to vote as a black person, on average, in this country than a white person for a whole variety of reasons (longer waits, greater costs in gaining the ability to vote, etc.).

It is harder for a number of different groups. Nobody argued that it is only harder for black people. There are racial, economic, living condition, and age factors all related to how difficult it is to get an ID. And raising the cost of voting always lowers turnout. So when you disproportionately increase the costs of voting, you are choosing an electorate that doesn't contain as many of those that you just chose to be subjected to higher voting costs (e.g., the rural poor, elderly, racial minorities, with stronger effects when people are found in multiple of these categories).

 

IDs should be free/reduced cost. Nursing homes can do them, social workers, etc. If the person is homebound or has a hardship someone can come to them.

My grandmother never drove & had to get a state ID in Florida to be able to use her Medicare/Medicaid. This was in the 80s and they just renewed like a driver's license.

Really it's not hard. An ID isn't too much to ask for. But the government should be doing all it can to issue them with as little hassle as possible to people.

 

Again make them free & the government has to have plenty of ways to get the ID. Could even work like passports where you take a picture, fill out the forms, send your birth certificate etc, and they mail it back to you with your ID.

An ID isn't too much to ask. But it needs to be easy not an added burden.

 

Yes.

And you might want to see Trump's voter fraud "task force" that was appointed after the 2016 election he won, because cry-baby Trump couldn't handle losing the popular vote by 3 million. Of course, the "task force" was terminated after failing to find any fraud at all.

Sore-loser Trump remains a cry-baby to this day, whining incessantly about imaginary voter fraud, after losing every court case and after every official audit confirmed that HE LOST!!!

 

Until you prove significant voter fraud, this remains nothing more than made-up GQP BS.

Dead people voting? Most cases I've seen involved GQP voters.

 

I wasn't addressing suppression efforts, which I do see. The gerrymandering all over the place is ridiculous, for example. Mail ins have been around for decades and shouldn't be taken away. Etc. I was addressing the part where there's objections to the ID situation and how that can be addressed fairly so there aren't objections to it.

 

And those can be addressed and should be. I get it and totally see what they're doing around the country, and it's not okay.

Frankly people need IDs for so much a basic one should be provided by the government to begin with - voting aside.

 

Trump taints Pennsylvania GOP Senate primary with fresh fraud lies - CNNPolitics

 

Republican claims that their election laws are intended to protect the "integrity" of elections are BS. Wherever the GQP controls state legislatures, they are passing laws that place election supervision in the hands of highly partisan GQP hacks.

Voter 'subversion:' Trump Republicans push laws to change elections

 

More fraud uncovered

 

WoolyB post #8
"Republicans don't worry about other republicans cheating them in primaries, that has always been the province of the machines in democratic run cities, in the general election." Did not age well at all.

 

Yeah, but some RINOs are in league with the Dems and I can see the Dems helping people like Romney in Utah and Murkowski from Alaska.

 

People that are having hard time financially can get free state issued IDs... how else can they get federal assistance like SNAP et al?

 

Seriously, Rick thinks there may be a conspiracy!!!! Nah, can't be.

 

The dead people voting schtick is just tired boogey-manning:

Trump claims 5,000 dead people voted in Georgia – but the real number is four

 

EVERYTHING he does underscores his narcissism. To be sure, it’s a mental illness he has no control over, and to that extent, I feel sorry for him. He misses so much of the joy of being alive. However, those who support a narcissist for POTUS, now that’s another matter. I’ve no sympathy for them, only, to be brutally honest, disgust. Trump is clearly and unequivocally unqualified to lead anything, and certainly not the most influential country in the world.

 

No. Some true Republicans realize that Trump extremists are RINOs and vote instead for those who remain true to the real GOP.

 

His post shows that he has absolutely no idea how elections actually work. He uses terms without understanding what they mean. There’s no issue with dead people voting, or with IDs. It’s just something made up to make it harder to vote.

The cleaning up a voter rolls is especiallyPernicious and misused. It came out of the 1992 motor voter act. But then Republicans trying to suppress minority votes would routinely purge the rolls Of those who hadn’t voted in a while, more than one name at the same address, or some other arbitrary measure that was usually calculated to appear facially neutral but to suppress minority voting. Then the individual would show up on election day and find out they weren’t registered.

What a completely ignorant post